Cycle Advice

[Julz_W]

Hey Guys

Just wanting some feedback on the cycle I'm considering.

Stats = 25 years old / 77kg - 12% bf
Years lifting = 2 years intro + 2 years heavy lifting
Cycle experience = previous test cycle to sus out any dramas / clen cycle

I'll be working somewhere that has a strict diet provided (will update when info becomes available) but it will be heavily based on the paleo diet.

I'll also be aiming to be consuming my protien powders. - Aiming for 4k caloric daily intake. Not sure how the macro split of 40/40/20 will manage but that will be my goal and will adjust if required

Cycle would be

Test Enth Weeks - 1-12 750mcg (once a week)
Test Prop Weeks - 1-4 (maybe 6) 400mcg (split dosages)
Eq Weeks - 1-12 500mcg (once a week)


PCT would be

Nolva 300 1st day - 100 days 2-11 - 50 - days 12 til finish
Clomid run the same



Any feedback would be nice.

[Julz_W]

OH - goals for the cycle will be to increase mass and maintain lbm gains.

I was told ~30lbs would be a sound estimate if my diet is decent.

[Piotr75]

i will not put my hand on the way of cycle or diet - there are more experienced members then me - , apart to correct the mcg in mg and to say to have an AI at hand with all that test. Your pct of nolva\clomid is good, but that are very high dosage for nolvadex!
40/40/20/20 on the nolva
100/100/50/50 on the clomid

dosage per day per week, typical pct.

[DeadlyD]

i will not put my hand on the way of cycle or diet - there are more experienced members then me - , apart to correct the mcg in mg and to say to have an AI at hand with all that test. Your pct of nolva\clomid is good, but that are very high dosage for nolvadex!
40/40/20/20 on the nolva
100/100/50/50 on the clomid

dosage per day per week, typical pct.

^^^^agree, you might want to consider taking Arimedex from day one up until PCT dosed @ .25mgs eod and bump up if needed.

[jasc]

Cycle would be

Test Enth Weeks - 1-12 750mcg (once a week)
Test Prop Weeks - 1-4 (maybe 6) 400mcg (split dosages)
Eq Weeks - 1-12 500mcg (once a week)

PCT would be

Nolva 300 1st day - 100 days 2-11 - 50 - days 12 til finish
Clomid run the same

Any feedback would be nice.

750mcg/week? hell my body produces more than that a day I'm just givin ya sh*t.. but ya mean mg. 1mg = 1000mcg

As for the E n Prop combo..can't comment on that, never ran it

Your pct is way outta whack bud.
should be:
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

x3 on the AI

[Julz_W]

Ah yeh - copied and paste that - am typing while moving on a bus so I'm cutting corners :P


I was considering doing 1000mg but I thought I could increase mid cycle if it becomes REALLY necessary.

[Julz_W]

And I do have Letro as an AI on standby but have heard that it's not ideal compared to adex.

Ideas?

[jasc]

Letro's not ideal but it'll work, just take very small doses.
I've used it in the past at .25mg e3d while my Aromasin was backordered.. seemed to worked well

[BBrian]

If in your weight training you've managed to reach a point where you've experiencing a high level of difficulty where gaining additional mass is concerned, you may find that, even at these doses of test, gaining 30 lbs may be fairly difficult, but a large factor to consider is what sort of caloric intake you've been averaging over the last 6-12 months. What has your diet been like during that time?

As for an AI, I highly recommend taking Arimidex or Aromasin on a regular basis throughout this cycle, and excluding the use of Letrozole, but that's my preference. I find that Letro is just too effective in crashing estrogen, and as we all know we need at least some estrogen in our bodies. I'd also like to suggest that you replace the Equipoise with a different compound, seeing as this is a bulking cycle, as Eq is not effective for bulking at all. In high doses for an extended period of time, Eq will be effective in giving your physique a hard, cut appearance, though the appetite stimulation many experience from Eq certainly will help you maintain a high calorie diet, if that's a problem for you.

[Julz_W]

Have been maintaining a strict diet to keep at maintenance just due to what was accessable at the time (Working seasonally).

An opportunity has come up where I'll be fed as much as I can eat + have a gym on site. So I thought this would be an ideal opportunity to just go for broke.

I dont really require much appetite stimulation (I can gain weight easily, quality weight is a different story).

I was toying with the idea of stacking Deca instead of EQ - however the sides (ED) are really not that appealing to me.

[songdog]

This is your 2nd cycle and you want to run 750mg then maybe 1000mg.you grow in steps not all at once you should just stack 500mg test with some Dbol.gaining 30lbs in a lil on the crazy side.

[BBrian]

Have been maintaining a strict diet to keep at maintenance just due to what was accessable at the time (Working seasonally).

An opportunity has come up where I'll be fed as much as I can eat + have a gym on site. So I thought this would be an ideal opportunity to just go for broke.

I dont really require much appetite stimulation (I can gain weight easily, quality weight is a different story).

I was toying with the idea of stacking Deca instead of EQ - however the sides (ED) are really not that appealing to me.

A wise concern, but as someone who has used deca several times in conjunction with test, I don't find deca to be intimidating at all in that respect. On the other hand, I absolutely love the benefits of deca in a bulking cycle. Just make sure that you run a proper PCT, and of course HCG is always a huge bonus where atrophy is a worry.