How long does the "speedy muscle recovery" function of tren take?

[austinite]

Su su sudio!

[songdog]

Bro you dont have a clue about wat you are doing.AAS doest work like that.

[< <Samson> >]

But, I wish it did.

I don't think anything can recover you that fast, or even close.

Research stuff, roids aren't magic. . . .

[Razor]

Bro you dont have a clue about wat you are doing.AAS doest work like that.

lmao

[aidin]

u shouldnt be considering it like that ...

[austinite]

Actually it does. Tren will utilize nutrients and retain nitrogen better than any AAS. So that results in faster recovery. Assuming you have a good diet, of course.

[bodybycookiesandcake]

i blew out my left pec, whole uper body around it was a dark bruise. because of tren A i was back lifting 3 days later, and chest in 7 days.

[Super-Chump]

Actually it does. Tren will utilize nutrients and retain nitrogen better than any AAS. So that results in faster recovery. Assuming you have a good diet, of course.

Just because you have read the tren profile that doesn't mean you know everything there is to know about it. I assume this is your first time using tren as you are asking such a silly question.

Firstly, 3 times a week full body training is far from ideal. My guess is that your training style is HIT. This style of training is not for advanced lifters, it is for beginner to medium level lifters. If you are achieving better results with this training style as opposed to a 3 or 4 day split you are not ready for steroids let alone tren.

Even with the aid of steroids you will not fully recover in between workouts. Steroids will accelerate protein synthesis it wont be so fast that you will recover that quickly. You want to go everyday to do a full body work out? Hmmm. Less is more my friend. You have to understand that going to gym is the most catabolic thing you can do; it's eating and resting that promote anabolic activity. If you are in the gym too often at the very best you'll be working more for less results.

If you are set on still taking tren I wouldnt be worrying about if you can hit the same body part ED or EOD, you should have a minimum of 5 days rests between body parts.

[gonzo6183]

Im assuming with your knowledge that this is your first cycle would that be correct?

Best thing you can do is post your stats for help
Age
height
weight
bodyfat
years training
cycle exp
diet too

By the sound of it you should not be using tren and a re far from ready, post up this info along with your proposed cycle for all the help you need

[bodybycookiesandcake]

how can hst style of training not be for advanced lifters? Its a great way to add mass over your natural limit. linear progression at heavier weights help keep adding the weight.

please provide evidence how hst style of training cant be usefull for gear users or advanced lifters.

[ghettoboyd]

Just because you have read the tren profile that doesn't mean you know everything there is to know about it. I assume this is your first time using tren as you are asking such a silly question.

Firstly, 3 times a week full body training is far from ideal. My guess is that you are training style is HST or HIT. These styles of training are not for advanced lifters, they are for beginner to medium level lifters. If you are achieving better results with these two training styles as opposed to a 3 or 4 day split you are not ready for steroids let alone tren.

Even with the aid of steroids you will not fully recover in between workouts. Steroids will accelerate protein synthesis it wont be so fast that you will recover that quickly. You want to go everyday to do a full body work out? Hmmm. Less is more my friend. You have to understand that going to gym is the most catabolic thing you can do; it's eating and resting that promote anabolic activity. If you are in the gym too often at the very best you'll be working more for less results.

If you are set on still taking tren I wouldnt be worrying about if you can hit the same body part ED or EOD, you should have a minimum of 5 days rests between body parts.

i agree with this...if you can work out all muscle groups everyday then your not hitting any of them hard enough...its time to try a 4-5 day split if your hung up on going to the gym that often...like was said allready, we grow when we rest so more isnt always best...try breaking your workouts into 2 body parts a day splits and really hit them hard if your looking to go to the next level cus full body workouts are for begginers imho...it seems as though you are trying to over think this when you should keep it simple...good luck...

[Super-Chump]

how can hst style of training not be for advanced lifters? Its a great way to add mass over your natural limit. linear progression at heavier weights help keep adding the weight.

please provide evidence how hst style of training cant be usefull for gear users or advanced lifters.

My apologies, no sleep and forever doing assignments makes homer go crazy. First post edited

[austinite]

I don't want to work out everyday. And I am not a fan of split routines. It's merely impossible to target completely different muscles than you did yesterday. If anyone thinks that doing chest today, and back tomorrow is 100% segregated muscle training, you're only kidding yourself.

Keep in mind, what works for you doesn't work for everyone. I don't do full body workouts every 3 days because that's all I know. I do it because I got little to no results from split routines. I guess the real question was to get some feedback on other folks' experience as far as when they begin to feel Tren working. The point was to see the average, and to look for signs during my cycle. No real harm there.

[ghettoboyd]

I don't want to work out everyday. And I am not a fan of split routines. It's merely impossible to target completely different muscles than you did yesterday. If anyone thinks that doing chest today, and back tomorrow is 100% segregated muscle training, you're only kidding yourself.

Keep in mind, what works for you doesn't work for everyone. I don't do full body workouts every 3 days because that's all I know. I do it because I got little to no results from split routines. I guess the real question was to get some feedback on other folks' experience as far as when they begin to feel Tren working. The point was to see the average, and to look for signs during my cycle. No real harm there.

thats why my 4-day split looks like this:
day1: chest,bicepts,abs
day2: legs
day3: delts,tricepts,calves
day4ff
day5: back,abs
day6+7ff
this gives me ample time to rest and recover for the next day, but your right we are all different and ive been living the bb lifestyle for almost 10yrs now so my body is accustom to working hard...fyi i mountain bike on my off days everyday for cardio and fun and im not talking that sissy downhill crap i cycle up hill as well and love it and i also work 12-15 hrs a day depending on my ever changing schedual...to answer your question about the tren, you didnt say what ester it is a or e....ive only done tren e and didnt really notice gains and some fat loss till like the 4 or 5 week mark...tren a will kick in faster like 1-2 weeks depending on the person....also tren does affect my cardio a bit but i dont let it stop me...again bro good luck...

[< <Samson> >]

^ pretty much, just like mine. Just tri's & bi's are swapped.


I don't see how there is a way to get full body workout into one session.

I did this way back when I was a complete noob to lifting. It works, kinda. . . But, nothin' like a split.

[Times Roman]

training everyday like that would be a rookie mistake. no disrespect to you, since when i was a kid and didn't know better, i worked out every day just to get the pump but never really grew too much.

your body can only grow at rest. if you are working a muscle, you cannot work it and expect it to grow at the same time. after you work a muscle group, you need a few days off so that it has time to grow. during that time off, you can work other muscle groups.

[ghettoboyd]

^ pretty much, just like mine. Just tri's & bi's are swapped.


I don't see how there is a way to get full body workout into one session.

I did this way back when I was a complete noob to lifting. It works, kinda. . . But, nothin' like a split.

i did my split like yours with the tris with chest and the bi's with back for years and ever since i swapped them so they could be fresh when worked and worked hard they grew like weeds...try it sometime but do it more than one week cus it took me a few weeks to get used to it and of course see the results...

[Nice Rack]

I wonder if I over train after this?

Im 6 days a week

1arms upper abs
2chest lower abs
3shoulders
4back/bis
5chest/tris
6legs

in respect to want you all posted
"day1: chest,bicepts,abs
day2: legs
day3: delts,tricepts,calves
day4ff
day5: back,abs
day6+7ff"

is this while on cycle?

Ill change for sure if so

[ghettoboyd]

I wonder if I over train after this?

Im 6 days a week

1arms upper abs
2chest lower abs
3shoulders
4back/bis
5chest/tris
6legs

in respect to want you all posted
"day1: chest,bicepts,abs
day2: legs
day3: delts,tricepts,calves
day4ff
day5: back,abs
day6+7ff"

is this while on cycle?

Ill change for sure if so

yes bro you may be over training because we grow when we rest...i do that split when on or off cycle......

[Nice Rack]

yes bro you may be over training because we grow when we rest...i do that split when on or off cycle......

hmmm I seem to have been fooled by my own ego....

ok changing shit up today.

[binsser]

mmmmmmmmmmm this is a good thread but do the pros train everyday or eod ????

i know eod is good but is it not enough???

[binsser]

i mean this is sort of what i do =

mon - chest /tri s and abs
tues - back /biceps
wed - off
thur -delts/abs
fri- legs/abs
sat-off
sun-off

and training is to the max everytime almost till i feel sick or reach after!!!

[Chuckdiesel]

mmmmmmmmmmm this is a good thread but do the pros train everyday or eod ????

i know eod is good but is it not enough???

Well given a specific muscle group needs 5-7 days to fully recover, eod is the way to go...this is my split and it works wonders for me. Each and every workout I can give 110% and I never feel tired or fatigued

Monday- Chest
tuesday- off
wednesday- back
thursday- off
friday- legs (quads)
saturday- off
sunday- shoulders

monday- off
tuesday- arms
wednesday- off
thursday- legs (hams)
friday- off
saturday- repeat the whole cycle again

I know this looks like it wouldn't impact muscle growth what so ever...but it works and it works damn well!

[songdog]

I don't want to work out everyday. And I am not a fan of split routines. It's merely impossible to target completely different muscles than you did yesterday. If anyone thinks that doing chest today, and back tomorrow is 100% segregated muscle training, you're only kidding yourself.

Keep in mind, what works for you doesn't work for everyone. I don't do full body workouts every 3 days because that's all I know. I do it because I got little to no results from split routines. I guess the real question was to get some feedback on other folks' experience as far as when they begin to feel Tren working. The point was to see the average, and to look for signs during my cycle. No real harm there.

Well then you should speak to guys like Jay Cutler and let him know he is doing his workout all wrong.I am sure he will be glad to hear from you

[Chuckdiesel]

Well then you should speak to guys like Jay Cutler and let him know he is doing his workout all wrong.I am sure he will be glad to hear from you

Haha, yup, he has it all wrong lmao...tren is, well tren bro. If your talking about tren ace and you dont see and feel it pretty much right away, well then your not using tren. Regardless, your argument here about full body workouts is pretty much a waste. No one, no where will attest to the benefits or fulfillment achieved when one uses a full body workout cause there is just none...period. Unless you *****foot the weights around well then sure, go ahead, but tren or no tren, there will be very little to no growth...not like what we achieve using splits

[DeadlyD]

My split looks like:

Mon: back/bis/cardio
Tues : chest/tris/abs
Wed: rest/cardio
Thurs: shoulders/abs
Fri:back/bis/cardio
Sat:chest/tris/abs
Sunff/rest
Some Wednesdays I take off

[Schmidty]

Well then you should speak to guys like Jay Cutler and let him know he is doing his workout all wrong.I am sure he will be glad to hear from you

lol he needs to learn a thing or two of he wants to make a career out of bodybuilding. to the guy who said HIT is for beginners i want you to come to the gyn with me just once and you tell me if its for a rookie. Iv been lifting for going on 10 years now and i use a 4day split of HIT and iv made more progress in the last month in a half on a cruise dose of test then i have in the past year doing volume training.

[Schmidty]

i wish juice made recovery time that fast though. think how cool it would be if you could train every muscle every day and still grow!

[bodybycookiesandcake]

science has shown muscle can be trained again in 48 hours, hence why full body eod works. but old school mentality thinks full body doesn't work and splits are godly. its teh same with people who lean back at the top of a dead lift... they read it in a magazine. So it must be correct.

if you are still getting the same amount of reps and sets in over teh course of the week and using linear progression to always increase weight every work out, not sure why this would make it so inferior to 4 day splits.