Second cycle advice

[YERRAZZO]

Hey guys I have been lifting for a year since my last cycle, which by the way was only sustanon and nandrolone.

I want to get some muscle mass but cut at the same time. Im thinking about Propionate, Trenbolone and Winstrol. Can be done? How many weeks and which would be the sequence? Thx

[Focused88]

IMO its only your second cycle and you should stick to test only, as should your first cycle be test only.
Don't get me wrong though. I wanted to do tren so bad on my second cycle (still do), but someone asked me why would I add tren and whatever else I wanted to add in the cycle if test worked well for me and it was only my second cycle. I honestly was really happy with the results of both test only cycles.

[Focused88]

What are ur stats man?

[YERRAZZO]

IMO its only your second cycle and you should stick to test only, as should your first cycle be test only.
Don't get me wrong though. I wanted to do tren so bad on my second cycle (still do), but someone asked me why would I add tren and whatever else I wanted to add in the cycle if test worked well for me and it was only my second cycle. I honestly was really happy with the results of both test only cycles.

Thx but I want to do some intermediate cycle now

[YERRAZZO]

195 6'1 BF not low IMO but im not fat either. Ive been training for 3 years, im 22.

[Focused88]

I see
Your too young for this to be your second cycle. But thats just my opinion.
I would advise you to look into complications of cycling with high bf% (above 15%).

[YERRAZZO]

OK but what about it, can be done? Im in the 15% range btw

[bob87]

For starters don't cycle until you are older wait a couple years. No one will give you cycle advice at your age

[Bevsta123]

195 6'1 BF not low IMO but im not fat either. Ive been training for 3 years, im 22.

too young

[stpete]

You're still a little young and inexperienced to be using. You don't want to screw with your hpta. I suggest you do some research on that. Here's something to get you started:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.T5vXnbOm9uA

[YERRAZZO]

I appreciate everything you all have said. I truly do. As I stated this would be my second cycle, I did susta and deca before around 15 months ago. Ive been training for 3 years and a couple of moths without rest, or maybe I took one week once in a while. Im 22 prior to my 23 in august. I dont see why I could not pull a cycle like this, I feel strong and capable of doing it. But I need you to point me out if this cycle would be good for some gain and cut and the week dosage as well. Thanks and hopefully you help me.

[YERRAZZO]

BTW under my name it says new member, but look at the right and you will see the date when I joined this forum to talk about steroids. Im not a starter guys.

[Focused88]

If your not a starter and have been here for a "while" then how come you don't know how to plan that cycle of yours?
Thats not the point though. You're too young and you don't need to cycle. That's what everybody here is trying to tell you.
Why wouldn't you listen to exp. people like stpete?
I'm not gonna keep carrying on if you feel like there's nothing wrong with you cycle then nothing is going to stop you.
But remember all the bad things that could happen to you just because you wanted it NOW.

[YERRAZZO]

It is not quite like that. I actually need you guys to guide through this one. Im asking for help. I ve been thru this before. A year ago in my first cycle nobody said anything regarding my age and I was 22, Im not a starter with a virgen brain who doesnt know anything about bodybuilding.

[kronik420]

whats wrong with waiting a couple more years, im 23 and i cant wait till i start cycling either, but i know ill be better off waiting a little bit longer, and besides im still making strength and size gains quite easily...
IMO our test levels are probably peaking around this age, so its like we're already on a mild aas cycle. might aswell make the most of a free cycle.