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05-02-2012, 07:00 PM #1Junior Member
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Source for ephedra? (not steroid so not against the rules?)
A friend of mine needs ephedra and I might need it in the future when I cut. Are those 8mg ephedra pills still around and what are good sources on the internet to get it from? If it's against the rules just delete this thread.
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05-02-2012, 07:03 PM #2
Still against the rules. But you can get Bronkaid or Primatene at any drugstore.
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05-02-2012, 07:13 PM #3Junior Member
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^ Yes but they contain another ingredient. Not only ephedra. Would that be safe to take on a var/proviron cutting cycle? I'm not sure if that other ingredient hits the liver at all. Hopefully not.
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05-02-2012, 10:09 PM #4
guaifenesin. It won't hurt you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaifenesin
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05-02-2012, 10:53 PM #6Banned
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Originally Posted by LolWuter
The 8mg is ephedrine hcl, ephedra is harder to find but still available
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05-02-2012, 11:59 PM #7
How is it you can order 10 bottles or this stuff online. thats 500 8mg tablets.
Cant you make M E T H with this stuff?
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05-03-2012, 03:13 AM #8Associate Member
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Bronkaid or Primatene.
You want epherdrine, not ephedra.
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05-03-2012, 04:02 AM #9
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05-03-2012, 11:28 AM #10
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05-03-2012, 01:20 PM #11
Ephedra is banned in the US right? But Ma hung is not?
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05-03-2012, 01:33 PM #12
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05-03-2012, 03:48 PM #13New Member
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I might be mistaken, but pretty sure Bronkaid or Primatene are no longer available in U.S. drug stores as on the end of 2011. I could not get them at a local CVS. Maybe it's just my state? Were any of you able to get them in drug stores OTC this year?
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05-03-2012, 04:28 PM #14Associate Member
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05-03-2012, 04:33 PM #15Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman
Unless they got banned again? I use yellow bullets or Lipodrine
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05-03-2012, 05:34 PM #16Banned
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Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman;5998148[B
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I used both. Back when it just got banned I got ahold of a huge supply from some store where it got pulled off the shelves. It was real good shit, it was Diet Fuel the OG formula.
Now, I just use HCL. Not the same, but similar. Just seems weaker mg for mg.
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05-03-2012, 06:17 PM #18
Ephedra and ephedrine are different. The first is a mix of plant alkyloids. The second is a specific compound found in ephedra, but usually made in a lab (though identical to plant extract). The hydrochloride or suflate group is just bound to the ephedrine to make it more water soluble and bioavailable. It does not change its effects.
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05-03-2012, 07:18 PM #19Banned
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05-03-2012, 07:27 PM #20Associate Member
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Correct me if Im wrong, but ephedra is the genus of plant and it.was the certain species (which Im not aware of) of the ephedra genus that was banned. My gym sells "ephedra" but is not the same as hcl or the original
Looks e sinica is the species that was banned.Last edited by cebby1985; 05-03-2012 at 07:31 PM.
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05-03-2012, 08:06 PM #21Banned
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i aint an expert on this but i believe its all dependent on conditons of where they are grown wether they contain the alkoids or not
i.e. coca plant only good for rec use in certain countrys in certain conditions, extract is worthess if conditions arent perfect
same principle applies with ma haung,
now if im wrong somebody please correct me as this is what i have gathered like i said i not 100%
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05-14-2012, 11:35 AM #22
Some clarity:
I've never tried the HCL or ephedrine versions (Bronkaid, Primatene, etc.) but I've heard good things. I try not to get caught up in the unnecessary semantics...go with what works for you.
I choose to stick with good ole' Ephedra since it's still readily available. If it ain't broke...
Dietary/Fat-Burning Ephedra doses and products (all but small dose bronchial dilators of the active ingredients) were banned in the US.
A couple of individual state courts overturned the national ban, but may or may not have stuck with it. I didn't live there so they didn't apply to me.
'Banned' does not mean illicit, illegal, or even controlled (via script). It means Eph cannot be sold OTC, but you can possess as much as you desire, which means the internet is a viable resource - for good sites pm me.
Best to you.Last edited by magic32; 05-14-2012 at 11:42 AM.
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06-21-2012, 12:05 AM #23New Member
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Someone shoot me a pm with location please
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