Masteron Questions.

**JDBeretta** · 05-03-2012, 07:51 PM

I am on a Test and Eq cycle (please don't hijack my thread talking about Eq... LOL). I am running 700/week of each. I am running Arimidex @.25mgs/EOD. My PCT will be the usual.

I am going to throw in 400/week of Masteron (propionate ester) for the last 8 weeks.

So my questions are the following:

Does Masteron actually work as an AI? If so, do I drop the Arimidex?

Can I get the maximum benefit out of this short ester by pinning EOD (mixing in with my shots now)?

Is there anything else I should be concerned about?

Although I appreciate any and all replies, I will only take into consideration the advice of those who I have seen post valuable comments on this site. So if you like to see yourself type and enjoy reading your own stuff, feel free to post... But I will not be heeding the advice from someone that is 3 weeks into their first cycle and has skimmed over a few threads online. If you get my drift.

Thanks guys!!

**JDBeretta** · 05-03-2012, 08:13 PM

Holy f*ck. that's a lot o gear. Thanks for your input.

**JDBeretta** · 05-03-2012, 08:16 PM

Do you weigh 400lbs? Lol.

**Sgt. Hartman** · 05-03-2012, 08:36 PM

I wouldn't drop the AI when you start mast. If you start to get sore joints or have other low e sides then lower it but you'll probably be fine on 700mg test.

Pinning EOD is fine.

If you're lean then the results from mast are amazing.

**JDBeretta** · 05-03-2012, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman

I wouldn't drop the AI when you start mast. If you start to get sore joints or have other low e sides then lower it but you'll probably be fine on 700mg test.

Pinning EOD is fine.

If you're lean then the results from mast are amazing.

Thanks! I'm fairly lean... I don't know what my bf is, but I see guys on here saying they're 15% and I'm WAY leaner.

**gonzo6183** · 05-03-2012, 09:12 PM

1. Masteron was not sufficient as an AI for myself, and needed to continue with Adex, just so you have varied experiences to make your own decision.

2. As you already know the more often you pin ED vs EOD vs EW you will be able to reduce the fluctuation of hormaone levels so ED would be ideal but EOD is fine. I was doing EOD with Mast E

3. Ideal bf would be under 10%, if you are cutting and plan to get below 10% then you will love it. I actually included it in a lean bulk and stayed around 11%, I was hard as a rock and could definitly see that the benifits were there but even at 11% (dexa scan, not high considering most people who think they are 12% are more like 17%) I believe my bf was too high. Will definitly run it again with a full cut rather than lean bulk when aiming for 6-7% next summer.

Hope that helps a bit.

Gonzo

**JDBeretta** · 05-03-2012, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by gonzo6183

1. Masteron was not sufficient as an AI for myself, and needed to continue with Adex, just so you have varied experiences to make your own decision.

2. As you already know the more often you pin ED vs EOD vs EW you will be able to reduce the fluctuation of hormaone levels so ED would be ideal but EOD is fine. I was doing EOD with Mast E

3. Ideal bf would be under 10%, if you are cutting and plan to get below 10% then you will love it. I actually included it in a lean bulk and stayed around 11%, I was hard as a rock and could definitly see that the benifits were there but even at 11% (dexa scan, not high considering most people who think they are 12% are more like 17%) I believe my bf was too high. Will definitly run it again with a full cut rather than lean bulk when aiming for 6-7% next summer.

Hope that helps a bit.

Gonzo

Awesome. Thanks. I'm going to stay at the Arimidex dose I'm at and see if I start seeing the low E sides. I can tell pretty quickly usually. I'll pin eod with my other current pins and judge if I feel the fluctuations. It is prop so I guess I'll have to see...

I hope to keep the size I have now and get a bit more ripped. I'm loving this cycle right now. The Eq is starting to show nicely and I think the masteron will finish it off nicely.

One more thing... Is 100mg/ml a standard dosage for this compound?

**gonzo6183** · 05-03-2012, 11:27 PM

Sure is, good luck man, you should love it...

**JDBeretta** · 05-04-2012, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by gonzo6183

Sure is, good luck man, you should love it...

I'm excited. I am picking it up tomorrow.

You notice any particular aggression effects? Pain from injections? Etc..? I'm not worried or anything, just trying to get an idea of what others have experienced.

**gonzo6183** · 05-04-2012, 12:18 AM

Defintly got my temper going, even though many people say "roid rage " is a myth there is also many people that experience it, i mean we are altering hormone level so its no real surprise is it... So yeah got the agression up, great in the gym, not so great when the gf is about to bleed for a week, not a good mix. then again its controlable of course, you know what it is so deal with it

Inj were painless but that being said the test prop from my source is also 100% painless (and yes its real and as good as you can get, in case anyone was going to jump on that)

What are your goals? you keeping a log?

**JDBeretta** · 05-04-2012, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by gonzo6183

Defintly got my temper going, even though many people say "roid rage " is a myth there is also many people that experience it, i mean we are altering hormone level so its no real surprise is it... So yeah got the agression up, great in the gym, not so great when the gf is about to bleed for a week, not a good mix. then again its controlable of course, you know what it is so deal with it

Inj were painless but that being said the test prop from my source is also 100% painless (and yes its real and as good as you can get, in case anyone was going to jump on that)

What are your goals? you keeping a log?

I haven't been keeping a great log on this cycle (I know, I know

)

My goal is to hit 215lbs on this cycle and not go bellow 205 when I come off (I'm like 208 or so right now). I have been keeping my water retention down (just through AI) and decided on Eq for the quality of gains, as minimal as they are in terms of size.

I'm not into the juice to compete or anything. I just worked my butt off for a couple of years in the gym and started to cycle for the added strength and size. I pay WAY more attention to my diet now than I did before and train smartly. I use my gear responsibly and have enjoyed great results from the gear I have used thus far.

So I hope to get a bit more shredded off of the end of this cycle and stay off for a good 6 months.

If that makes any sense, I'm not sure...

**The Titan99** · 05-04-2012, 12:42 AM

I use Masteron on almost every cycle. Great for sex-especially when combined with Proviron . I never use an AI nor have I needed one so I don't know there. Going to start a Test A/Tren A/Masteron P/Tbol cycle mid May. I've done it several times in the past on cutting cycles with Var instead of the Tbol and is maybe my favorite cycle. Test P/NPP is a close 2nd...

**JDBeretta** · 05-04-2012, 01:13 AM

I'm definitely looking forward to trying this stuff.,.

**bodybycookiesandcake** · 05-04-2012, 01:20 AM

id run it at at least 600mg a week up to 1000mg. u will see a world of difference between this and 400 a week.

**Sgt. Hartman** · 05-04-2012, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by bodybycookiesandcake

id run it at at least 600mg a week up to 1000mg. u will see a world of difference between this and 400 a week.

I've never run it that high but what would you say is the big difference between say 525mg per week and dosing it at 600mg - 1g (aside from losing all your hair lol).

**MR10X** · 05-04-2012, 07:58 AM

I ran it with tren and test,and EQ.It made by hair fall out really fast and i have never had an issue with hair loss,so if you care about losing your hair stay with the AI untill you are happy with the results from the masteron ,you may want to stop using it.

**Misery13** · 05-04-2012, 11:26 AM

Repost...sorry.

**JDBeretta** · 05-04-2012, 11:28 AM

That shit CRAY!

**Misery13** · 05-04-2012, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by pshnbgw8

I now can workout without falling asleep between sets lol I got needle happy at 4800 pw.

More info please. Your stats... A brief cycle history... And an explanation as to you falling asleep in between sets... I'm an insomniac and I miss getting regular solid sleep.
You say you were on 4800mg of test a week?

**Blergs** · 05-04-2012, 01:31 PM

Mast is NOT an AI !
don't count on it as one. will it help? sure
but ALWAYS have an AI on hand and if you see things going south , start the AI dont wait on the mast.

I LOVE mastE myself and am using it now with teste.
Test/Mast combo is AWSOME! for cutting OR bulking. :-P

**Blergs** · 05-04-2012, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Misery13

More info please. Your stats... A brief cycle history... And an explanation as to you falling asleep in between sets... I'm an insomniac and I miss getting regular solid sleep.
You say you were on 4800mg of test a week?

HAHAHA I sure hope not!

**JDBeretta** · 05-04-2012, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Blergs

Mast is NOT an AI !
don't count on it as one. will it help? sure
but ALWAYS have an AI on hand and if you see things going south , start the AI dont wait on the mast.

I LOVE mastE myself and am using it now with teste.
Test/Mast combo is AWSOME! for cutting OR bulking. :-P

Other than training and diet, how do you differentiate bulk from cut regarding mast?

**Misery13** · 05-04-2012, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Blergs

HAHAHA I sure hope not!

Yeah I hope not either but that's how I read it....

**Misery13** · 05-04-2012, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Blergs

Mast is NOT an AI !
don't count on it as one. will it help? sure
but ALWAYS have an AI on hand and if you see things going south , start the AI dont wait on the mast.

I LOVE mastE myself and am using it now with teste.
Test/Mast combo is AWSOME! for cutting OR bulking. :-P

No it's not. But after reading this post I looked it up in my Anabolics 2011 and it is a estrogen blocker. Should you use it as one by itself...no... Could you... Like dukkit says experiment and see and that's what I intend to do.

**bodybycookiesandcake** · 05-05-2012, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman

I've never run it that high but what would you say is the big difference between say 525mg per week and dosing it at 600mg - 1g (aside from losing all your hair lol).

difference i was referring to is the cookie cutter 400 a week. at 525 and 600 not much. but again 525 and say 1000 is again a big difference. yes sides can be a bitch, but if you become a long term user. eventually you start taking high amounts of gear.

dht blockers
genetics
and from bear ordering 15% rogain from amazon are things to consider.

look at the structure of some of these drugs and the dose that suppresses you and then the doses after that bind and that become anabolic . you need to make the best bang for yoru buck while on when you are an advanced gear user.

**DanMan250** · 05-05-2012, 03:02 AM

I'm always surprised when i read people have lost hair on Masteron . I am VERY prone to hair loss and have not lost any hair on 400mg per week of Masteron.

**MR10X** · 05-05-2012, 03:24 AM

Not being a smart ass but your masteron might not be real,since it is usually more expensive than other compounds people susbstitute test for a lot of compounds because it is much cheaper. I have been using steroids for 30 years and nothing made my hair fall out except for masteron. People have said deca and tren made their hair fall out but i never had a problem with either one of those and they were real not UGL.

**lca** · 05-05-2012, 05:15 AM

I would like to know from people who has used masteron if they are gyno prone if so did it help prevent it from flaring up during their cycle

thanks

**gonzo6183** · 05-05-2012, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by lca

I would like to know from people who has used masteron if they are gyno prone if so did it help prevent it from flaring up during their cycle

thanks

Read my post in this thread...

**GetItHot** · 05-05-2012, 10:12 AM

Does it make your body hair fall out too? Or just the hair on top of your head?

**Misery13** · 05-05-2012, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Misery13

More info please. Your stats... A brief cycle history... And an explanation as to you falling asleep in between sets... I'm an insomniac and I miss getting regular solid sleep.
You say you were on 4800mg of test a week?

Bump for answer please and thank you.