How do I go about bringing down a lab that scammed me?

[awms]

I purchased gear from a guy at my gym who I thought I knew very well! and he is a rep for a newer ugl....well after 3 weeks on 800mg a week of test and 80mg of var I feel nothing! not only that the injections are 100% pain free even after shooting 600mg of t400 into my ass....I have used bother test and var in the past and have never been scammed this bad! I want to bring this lab to its knees! so no one eles gets scammed! any advice?

[gixxerboy1]

not much you can do. And do not attempt to do much on this board.
also just because it's not painful does not mean its not real. I'm on 450mg/ml test right now that is very real and no pain at all.

[Times Roman]

you don't. if they are selling non legit product, they will bring themselves down eventually

[BreakingFace]

Getting bunk product is a risk in this venture. Never invest more than you can afford to lose. I have always been in the habit of using multiple sources and labs, this way bunk/underdosed product never stops me from executing an organized cycle.

[Coolhand5599]

I don't get sore and I am on pharm from Dr.

[songdog]

All my gear is smooth even my prop.My guy dont make trash.

[MickeyKnox]

on boards where you're allowed to post lab names..post it up and tell your story. BUT, make double sure it's fake first.

[awms]

not much you can do. And do not attempt to do much on this board.
also just because it's not painful does not mean its not real. I'm on 450mg/ml test right now that is very real and no pain at all.

I realize that pain is not always associated with the authenticity of a compound but when you are shooting 600mg or 1.5cc of test, 150mg of which is prop there is no way that it would not hurt at least a slight amount....after shooting 1.5cc I felt nothing at all the next day! that has to say something about the product!

[awms]

I don't want to report them to the cops I just want to make sure no one ever buys this crap they are selling! and I want to make it well known to steer clear of this ugl!

[lovbyts]

Have you had blood work done to verify it's bunk? Dont just go by what gains you did or did not make. Maybe you had high E2 and made no gains? I had HIGH E2 with no sides except only little gains, just above normal test levels when it should have been 3x higher.

Best way to deal with them is don't buy from them and don't recommend them if you are sure it's bunk but always be SURE it is, have your proof (blood work) as backup.

[The Bear 79]

I don't want to report them to the cops I just want to make sure no one ever buys this crap they are selling! and I want to make it well known to steer clear of this ugl!

HA LOL..........& just how do you expect that would go down? "Hi, I'd like to file a scam complaint against an illegal under ground steroid lab that I bought illegal black market steroids from without a prescription, as it turns out, after I injected it in my body, I the stuff they sold me was fake, & I would like you to do something about it please"................LOL

[gixxerboy1]

I realize that pain is not always associated with the authenticity of a compound but when you are shooting 600mg or 1.5cc of test, 150mg of which is prop there is no way that it would not hurt at least a slight amount....after shooting 1.5cc I felt nothing at all the next day! that has to say something about the product!

my test is 450mg and 150mg of it is prop. I can do 1cc in my bi's tri's anyplace with no pain

[gixxerboy1]

on boards where you're allowed to post lab names..post it up and tell your story. BUT, make double sure it's fake first.

even on those boards there are rules to calling out a scammer

[gonebluffn]

Leesoned learned dont purchase or recomend them ,they will bring themselves down.

[Scabtree]

Well, if it were me I would figure out their network/internetwork infrastructure and have some fun with it. No, it's not the best idea, but it sure is satisfying.

[Gi812Many]

How well do you know the guy who sold you the stuff? Very well may have played with the product before giving it to you? Seen that all to many times, how they support their little habits. But, like said up above...if they are selling garbage, they will eventually bring themselves down. People like that make no sense to me, not like your going to get rich off a couple sells of bunk UGL. Might as well make killer stuff so people come back for more, way more money in the long run. My 2 cents

[danielbiker]

I would'n try to do much to bring them down.They will not stay in bussines for long if the products are bunk.It's sad it happened to you but in this game is not something unusual.

[DGK]

i have legit t400 and it has never caused me pain..

[awms]

Have you had blood work done to verify it's bunk? Dont just go by what gains you did or did not make. Maybe you had high E2 and made no gains? I had HIGH E2 with no sides except only little gains, just above normal test levels when it should have been 3x higher.

Best way to deal with them is don't buy from them and don't recommend them if you are sure it's bunk but always be SURE it is, have your proof (blood work) as backup.

Not possible Im taking .5mg letro e3d to control bloat and gyno as I always have in the past....e2 can only be present if estrogen levels are high enough so I dout its the cause.

[awms]

HA LOL..........& just how do you expect that would go down? "Hi, I'd like to file a scam complaint against an illegal under ground steroid lab that I bought illegal black market steroids from without a prescription, as it turns out, after I injected it in my body, I the stuff they sold me was fake, & I would like you to do something about it please"................LOL

I dont expect it would go down any way because like I said i don't want to give the impression I think I could go to the cops....Im trying to warn people about this shiitty asss ugl! wouldn't want to see anyone eles get scammed. I'm not new to this just pissed I got ripped off! the rep was a guy I know very well so for him to rip me off I am super pissed!

[awms]

How well do you know the guy who sold you the stuff? Very well may have played with the product before giving it to you? Seen that all to many times, how they support their little habits. But, like said up above...if they are selling garbage, they will eventually bring themselves down. People like that make no sense to me, not like your going to get rich off a couple sells of bunk UGL. Might as well make killer stuff so people come back for more, way more money in the long run. My 2 cents

I know the guy well....works out at my gym, iv worked out with him multiple times and thought I could trust him. I asked him how well he knew the stuff and he said he uses it and swore by the product so I'm shocked that he sold me bunk gear but people have done stranger things in life I guess....some guys will **** anyone for a dollar!

[lovbyts]

Not possible Im taking .5mg letro e3d to control bloat and gyno as I always have in the past....e2 can only be present if estrogen levels are high enough so I dout its the cause.

OK but still have you gotten blood work done to check your test levels to make sure the gear is bunk?

Yeah when it comes to money that seems to be the #1 thing that causes problem between friends and family.

[AD]

if you know the chap who sold them to you, why dont you just go throw it in his face and ask for your money back?

[wmaousley]

bro your only 3 weeks into it. Give it more time before you pass judgement. With me it takes 5 weeks to really feel the test

[lovbyts]

bro your only 3 weeks into it. Give it more time before you pass judgement. With me it takes 5 weeks to really feel the test

How the hell did I miss that, 3 week? For Gods sake.

Well if you really want to FEEL like they are real/painful switch up to an 18g needle, that should do the trick and if not go for the calf's.

[The Bear 79]

How the hell did I miss that, 3 week? For Gods sake.

Well if you really want to FEEL like they are real/painful switch up to an 18g needle, that should do the trick and if not go for the calf's.

Leather Daddy likes to hit the throat...........

[lovbyts]

Leather Daddy likes to hit the throat...........

LOL I think we need to bump that post.

I know why I missed the above 3 week part and the other dumb ass post previously. It might have something to do with working 16 hrs today and 12+ hrs for the last 9 days straight. Now I have to go to PT right after work. Ill sleep next week.

[awms]

By the end of week 3 I should fee something! Im not going to blow up but libido, small strength gains ect ect ....Im also on var 80mg a day.

[lovbyts]

Everyone is different. I get mine from Walgreens so I know it's real... Typically I dong feel anything, maybe a slight increase in libido but I can see the difference after 8+ weeks so I know it's working. Ive never gotten any strength gains worth writing home about of feeling like I could bench more than usual. I make slow steady gains.

[gixxerboy1]

By the end of week 3 I should fee something! Im not going to blow up but libido, small strength gains ect ect ....Im also on var 80mg a day.

maybe you are taking to much letro and that is why you have no libido

[spywizard]

I think you are over expecting on the test..

but 80mg var in week 3.. you should be cramped up for sure..

I can run it that high, but after 12 days, i lower it to 60 for 3 days then back up the pain can be very high..

[swm1972]

As others have mentioned you are expecting to much at 3 weeks. I'd wait 5 to 6 weeks before calling it a scam. Or I would get blood work done and confirm it before getting shitty with someone I know. You can get blood work done cheaply if you are in the states.

If this were test prop at week three we would all be questioning the product along with you. But with the longer chained compounds, you really need to have some patience. That's why you are running it for 12 weeks and not 8. Because it takes 4-5 for most people to start feeling it.

Not saying you can't get bad gear. It's possible. But raw materials are so cheap that it doesn't make a lot of sense to put all the effort into labeling, crimpers, vials, oils, filtration (I'd hope even if it were pure oil they'd filter it) and not put the active component in it. Bunk products get a bad rap quickly these days with the Internet. Only so many vials of crap you are going to be able to move before people get wise to it. far more money in it to make a quality product and gain a good rep.

[CrvyGrl68]

Just a thought. If you "charged" your purchase from said lab, contest the charges with your credit card company.

A friend of mine earlier this year did this and was credited back the amount charged.

After discovering that the products he purchased were either bunk or very "weak" he attempted to resolve the situation with the lab.
The lab never returned his emails nor could he get through via phone. So he contested the charges with his credit card company.
The credit card company was unable to get a hold of the lab either, so they refunded his money.

If you paid cash...you're probably out of luck. Sorry.

[Firestorm#1]

My test is from the doctor and it is smooth. No pain.

[awms]

maybe you are taking to much letro and that is why you have no libido

This is my 4th cycle and its never failed me in the past. I usually get libido increase around day 5-7, and by the end of week 3 strength shoots up a bit along with a small amount of size, My balls seem to be the same size as before as well which seems like a red flag.

[awms]

I contacted the rep and told him I was very very disappointed! he said he would take care of which I did not expect, he said it seems fishy and he would talk to someone and see wtf is up because it doesn't seem right. Its never a good sign when a rep says it seems fishy lol Even if they do give me new stuff that is good I dout I will ever use this lab again! I would have to get some crazy gains in order for me to ever purchase the stuff....the worst part is that I could have purchased the stuff I had last time which I loved! but this guys said it was amazing! some of the best around and that he trusted it 100%, he gave me a good deal and so it only made sens....looks 100% legit! professional holograms and labels, clean looking, both bottles are filled evenly...seems odd that they would go to such trouble to sell fakes I know! but Im telling you this stuff sucks!

[Times Roman]

maybe you are taking to much letro and that is why you have no libido

yer taking letro? letro is known to kill libido mate. only use letro when absolutely necessary. i've had a bottle of the stuff sitting on my shelf for almost a year now. thought i was coming down with some gyno, so i ordered but waited to take to make sure. glad i didn't crack the seal...!

[wmaousley]

Beat the helloutof the guy who sold you the aas

[Bevsta123]

HA LOL..........& just how do you expect that would go down? "Hi, I'd like to file a scam complaint against an illegal under ground steroid lab that I bought illegal black market steroids from without a prescription, as it turns out, after I injected it in my body, I the stuff they sold me was fake, & I would like you to do something about it please"................LOL

cant you make an annonomys tip?

[cb714]

lets just say they are selling you fake gear, what's the worse that can happen for selling people oil?