Cycle Critique

[gymsoldier]

Hi all, looking for some critique on this first cycle.
If you feel the cycle should be changed, can you give reasons why, as this is all a learning experience for me.

I'm 25 years old, 26 in three months.
Previous cycle history is two PH cycles.
Just coming to the end of a 8 week cut and hanging around 7% BF, down from 11%.
Lifting experience is 7 years, with the last 3.5 years being serious and consistent.
Diet plan good and knowledge is high (Diploma in Nutrition).
Body type is Ectomorph.


20ml Test-E 250mg/ml
5mg D-Bol
5mg Winny
20mg Tamoxifen
50mg Clomid

Proposed Cycle (Start date June 4th):

455mg Test-E/wk for 11 weeks (1ml 250mg every 4 days)
D-Bol at 35mg ED weeks 1 - 4 (4weeks)
Winny at 35mg ED weeks 10 - 13 (4weeks)


PCT:

Tamoxifen at 20mg ED weeks 14 - 19 (6weeks - 20/20/20/20/20/20)
Clomid weeks 14 - 17 (4weeks) at 200/200/100/100

[traindude]

Strange Test E dosage is all I can say.Why not go to 500ml a week?

[ironbeck]

So he has enough for a 11 week cycle ...20ml x 250=5000 / 11 is 454.54

[shredded]

Too many compounds for a first cycle Test only would be ideal reason being if you get side effects you won't know Compound is doing it for future cycles.

[gymsoldier]

Too many compounds for a first cycle Test only would be ideal reason being if you get side effects you won't know Compound is doing it for future cycles.

True, but was hoping to minimise this with low doses of each compound.
Point taken though.

[gymsoldier]

Thoughts on proposed PCT? No access to HCG, "friend" is getting back to me on Aromasin.

[auswest]

First cycle I would only run the test.
If that is all the test you can get your hands on, how about:

Test e week 1-12 400mg p/w
Arimidex .25 eod up to Ed if needed.

15-18 nolva 40/40/20/20
15-18 clomid 50/50/50/50

Could still use the dbol for a kickstart, some would advice against it though.

[gymsoldier]

Arimidex .25 eod up to Ed if needed.

I can't get my hands on Arimidex, and waiting to hear back if I can get Aromasin.

[auswest]

I can't get my hands on Arimidex, and waiting to hear back if I can get Aromasin.

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[Turkish Juicer]

I can't get my hands on Arimidex, and waiting to hear back if I can get Aromasin.

Aromasin can be quite strong.

Dosing has to be arranged with caution.

[gymsoldier]

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Just looked there at LiquiDex, is it liquid oral or intramuscular?

[gymsoldier]

Just had a look at LiquiDex on AR-R, is it oral or intramuscular?

[jasc]

oral

[gymsoldier]

oral

And I'm guessing that is the same case with their T3 and Clen?

[wesholcomb80]

yes its oral

[gymsoldier]

So what I have learnt is that my cycle is not suited for a first cycle, and I will adjust it accordingly. But, based on the cycle I gave, did I make a good attempt on thinking up a cycle and PCT based on what I've learnt so far? Even if it was for a more advanced user. As I said I'm learning and would like to increase my knowledge.

[gymsoldier]

Bump.

Question:

I'm coming to the end of cut, sub 8% at the moment.
As it is coming into the summer I've got it into my head that I would like to continue dropping body fat instead of the bulk I proposed.

My question is, can I, and how would I cut with Test-E?
From what I've read, most people use Test-P to cut.

I have a diploma in Nutrition, so constructing a suitable diet is not an issue.

All help welcome!

[Turkish Juicer]

You can cut with anything as far as diet is in check.

The idea that compound largely determines whether you will cut or bulk is bunch of small talk.

Carb management, low sodium diet, cardio 6 times a week and high protein while on cycle combined with intense lifting is the recipe for cutting.

Although results will be yielded much quicker with Test P than Test E since most users feel Test E kick in at around week 5, which gets frustrating pretty fast especially if you are on a cutting phase; whereas, Test Prop kicks in much faster and gets the job done within an 8 week frame, not to mention you won't have to wait for 2 weeks to start PCT with Test Prop.

[Turkish Juicer]

That being said, here is my suggestion:

Test Prop 100mg ED for 8 weeks.

Arimidex 0.25mg EOD up until PCT.

HCG 250iu E3D up until PCT.

Cycle carbs between workout and off days as well small and large muscle group days, stay away from sodium over your basic daily need and cardio is a must for serious cutting.

PCT starts 3 days after your last pinning of Test Prop; Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 Clomid 50/50/50/50 will be sufficient for this cycle.

[gymsoldier]

Thanks for the advice man!

[gymsoldier]

I've adjusted my PCT accordingly with Tamoxifen at 40/40/20/20, and Clomid at 50mg ED.
My question is, would there be any extra benefit from running Clomid for 6 weeks at 50mg ED as opposed to 4 weeks 50mg ED?