My second Cycle.

[JMBDB]

Im debating on what to run as my 2nd bulking cycle. Either a 12 week cycle with deca /Test E/ Dbol like this.

Week 1-12 500 mg/week Test E
Week 1-10 250 mg/week deca
Week 1-3 40mg Dbol daily

Or a 15 week 500mg/week Test E and Dbol for 3 weeks at 40mg Daily

I have been off for 3 months had great gains on my first cycle and will have a good PCT and supplements on hand at all times. I will be very serious with this run so nutrition and training will be near perfect. I have done test/deca but no dbol and is seems to be a great kickstart. I am 5'10 180 lbs 11% BF.

[Turkish Juicer]

I wouldn't cycle yet at your age. The fact that you have already cycled doesn't necessarily justify an upcoming 2nd cycle as two wrongs don't make a right.

If you go ahead and run this cycle at any rate, then you should be aware that Deca at the proposed dose will do next to nothing for you.

[JMBDB]

Thanks, why wouldnt 250 do anything? I ran only 200/week and had a 25lb gain which i kept 19 of that currently. I think at 22 i should be ok with proper PCT i know how to do it right and all of the percausions. Sure i would rather be 26-27 and start but im not.

[Turkish Juicer]

Well, if you are going to run this cycle anyway it is at the least relieving to hear that you know your PCT.

Most users respond well to Deca roughly at a dose around 400mg per week, which is why I said 250mg may be too little to see results.

At any rate, it will be hard to tell whether gains are mostly coming from Test E or Deca since you proposed cycle includes 3 compounds.

If any adjustments should be made at this point, I would suggest you run the oral for the first 5 weeks at 50mg given that it usually takes up to 5 weeks for Test E and Deca to fully kick-in and start generating visible results. Again, there are no stone written elements concerning when a long estered compound is supposed to kick in since this has to do with blood plasma which we know that varies between individuals, but this is just my advice. There is also the option of just stopping the oral once you feel that long esters have finally kicked in and doing their job.

[JMBDB]

thank you yes ill have novidex and clomid as a pct and arimidex just in case.. should i just run the 15 week test E and dbol then?

[Turkish Juicer]

You will need the Arimidex even if you run a Test E cycle only, so make sure you have enough of that under your hand.

I wouldn't advice for a 15 week cycle. Considering that gains usually stop at around week 8-10, you are basically extending the cycle for the purpose of rather keeping the gains you made as opposed to provide continuum of further growth. On the downside, you are extending the HTPA shutdown, which means it will be harder and take longer to recover. It is thus wiser to run a shorter cycle and make sure your training, diet and recovery are top notch during this period so that you are benefiting from AAS to the max.

[Turkish Juicer]

On a second thought, assuming that you have not yet purchased your gear, why not run a Test Prop only cycle at 100mg ED for 8 weeks and see how it works for you. Do NOT underestimate what Test Prop can be capable of at 700mg e/w, that is indeed a lot of test for someone with only one cycle under his belt. With a great diet and workout regimen, you will blast in a relatively short period of time without a doubt.

You will not be only taking less risks by avoiding a cycle with multiple compounds, you will also have a great understanding of how your body responds to Test Prop alone, not to mention you will NOT need an oral to kick-start this cycle either. Recovery will be easier and quicker too.

Arimidex , Nolvadex and Clomid will be involved in a Test Prop only cycle as well.

PCT will start only 3 days after your last pinning of Prop as opposed to 14 days with a Test E cycle.

I am sure you have an understanding of something more intelligent is being proposed here.

The only downside to this cycle will be the everyday pinning, however.

[Zeezer]

can someone give me advice on a stack?

[Zeezer]

I was interested in taking small dosages of test prop, winstrol , and hgh to give me slight gains. Im not looking for major bulking but more so to add a few lean pounds and get a boost in strength/recovery.

Winstrol 10mg daily 10 weeks
Test Prop 20mg daily 10 weeks
HGH 2iu daily 20 weeks
Arimidex 1mg eod 10 weeks, then 1mg daily for two more weeks.

I would greatly appreciate input as I have only cycled once before and it was tailored for different results.

[Turkish Juicer]

[JMBDB]

I would but i actually purchased my gear i have Test E- Dbol and Deca on hand.. I thinkim gonna run 500mg test 350mg deca? a week and a three week dbol 20-40-40 a day. Opinion? or will that test be to low i really didnt want to run more than 500. im taking arimidex .5 everyother day until my last day of dbol then will switch too .25 everyother day. i appreciate your posts

[Turkish Juicer]

Dosing of both Test and Deca seems fine to me.

I don't see why you wouldn't run the oral at 50mg ED and for 5 weeks though.