took gear as a teenager, im 21 now, libidio is still not back?

[viking88]

i took maybe 3 or 4 cycle of gear and probably 3 or 4 pro hormone cycles before when i was 15 and even in between until i stopped when i was 19.. i think i took one pct during one of these cycles but thats it

i got hormone tested last year and everything came back great, i even had high test levels, my estrogen was a litttle high but still within range



so how can my libido still be fucted when my hormone levels are good?

please dont say "its because i took gear too young" because i obviously understand that, im trying to find a reason why this is, so i can find a solution

or is this something modern medicine hasnt figured out yet ie. when teenagers take gear and later on get their hormone levels checked and come back good yet they still have negative symptoms..

[< <Samson> >]

Have you tried the usuals, cialis or viagra?

[Lil man]

At around 21 I didn't have much libido anyway. Would nolvadex and clomid not help? Guess not since test levels AR normal! Idk.

[viking88]

Have you tried the usuals, cialis or viagra?

like i said, im trying to find an answer from some of the vets or knowledgeable people as to why this is, of course ive tried cialis but im not trying to cover up the symptoms anymore

im seeking an answer you know

[< <Samson> >]

like i said, im trying to find an answer from some of the vets or knowledgeable people as to why this is, of course ive tried cialis but im not trying to cover up the symptoms anymore

im seeking an answer you know

I hear ya, just wondering if it helped. GL

[DanB]

Are you on any medication

[viking88]

Are you on any medication

no i am not

[The Bear 79]

When you had your blood work done, had you just come off a cycle?

[viking88]

no, this is one of my earlier posts from last year regarding this topic



testosterone , total 869 reference range 250-1100

testosterone, free 256.8 reference range 35.0 - 155.0

LH, 13.2 reference range 1.5- 9.3


estradiol, 41 reference range 13-54


TSH 2.73 reference range 0.50 - 6.00

im 20 years old with heavy aas use in highschool.. i have all the symptoms of low testosterone , NO sex drive whatsoever. no energy, brain fog, depressed,gyno , water retention, rapid fat gain. so i dont possibly understand how these results seem normal

last cycle i ran was 2 years ago but ive had gyno since and about 2 months ago i ran letro using swiftos gyno reversal protocol, then ran nolva for about a month, (nolva was stopped 4 days before i got this bloodwork done)

[Turkish Juicer]

I wouldn't want to be the one to deliver you the bad news but your BW results above are questionable since you took your BW only 4 days after stopping Nolva.

[DanB]

I wouldn't want to be the one to deliver you the bad news but your BW results above are questionable since you took your BW only 4 days after stopping Nolva.

I missed that,

Op get BW redone

[viking88]

how much could the nolva have affected my test results?

[Turkish Juicer]

how much could the nolva have affected my test results?

by a whole alot bro!

how does up to 350% sound?

[The Bear 79]

how much could the nolva have affected my test results?

Think about it, we use Nolvadex to "jump start" our natural Test. production. This is why we don't get post cycle blood work done until at least 30 days after PCT ends, if not 45.

[viking88]

ok well lets say i go in and get bw done and i have low t and all that, then what? are they going to give me a script for injectable test enth for a lifetime?

when i first told my gp about this and he said if i had low t he wanted to give me androgel and i laughed in the inside, i would never do that.

[Turkish Juicer]

if your BW depicts that you have low test due to having ruined your HTPA at a young age, TRT will be an option, if not the most feasible one.

... and for the record, most TRT patients I have talked to receive intramuscular injections once a week as opposed to using Androgel .

[viking88]

there is a place right down the street where i live, they offer weekly injections of, and this is from their website,

"We use testosterone cypionate , an injectable, bio-identical testosterone "


what does bio-identical mean? is that just a name they have to use for pr purposes? or is legit?

[viking88]

by a whole alot bro!

how does up to 350% sound?

so if it affects my results by 350%. if you.had to give me a guess as to what my true test levels are? in terms of the number. are you saying it could be in the 400's? more? less?

[viking88]

bump

[NotConvincedYet]

I dont anyone could possibly answer that last question. I mean do the math, if you can get a 350% increase and you showed 700 then you could be as low as 200 theoretically. But how the hell can we know if it helped you by 350% or nothing at all???

Best thing to do is go get bloodwork done, and take it from there...

[viking88]

i only said it affected my results by 350% because that's what Turkish juice said.. im about to get bloodwork done this week but im just curious as to guess what my true test levels are since my previous results were affected by "350%"

can nolva affect test results by over 350 percent? and if so, and if you had to guess, what do you think my true test levels are?

[DGK]

hmmmm is this one of those reasons why we tell kids not not cycle before 25?

[Michael21]

No one is going to be able to tell you what your Test levels are. You have been advised that the Nolva could have drastically altered your BW results, but it is utterly impossible for any of us to know how dramatically this occurred, if at all.

Get your BW redone, that will tell you. Anything else is pure speculation and won't help a thing.

[cb714]

Bro when you refer to "libido" what exactly are you talking about? Thats kind of a broad term. Do you just have no interest in sex or do you have interest in sex but cant get it up.

You can always try viagra if you're having trouble getting it up. I've also found arginine, or more specifically aakg, to help with erection issues.