Thinking about stopping....

[lstbred]

this cycle at 8 weeks (at 7 now). This is my first cycle and I did some reasearch but over the last couple months have learned much more, things make more sense, I have TONS more to learn but I got a good start. What do you guy's think of stopping at 8, wait my 8 then start new with more of what Ive learned?

Current
1-8 Test E
1-4 Dbol

[kbeezy321]

i thought cycles were at the least 10 weeks, why did you plan only a 8 week cycle?

[Capebuffalo]

What is your planned pct?

[MickeyKnox]

stopping??

if i were you, the only thing i would be considering doing is increasing it to 12 wks. yes i know you front loaded dbol, but when that test spools up you're gonna feel fantastic. trust me, run it out to 12 for max gains and benefits.

just my .02

i assume you pct is squared away?

[Capebuffalo]

Dude your running a cycle @ 20% bf. do you have an ai? Anything on hand for gyno? Do you have pct planned? Please say yes. Please

[< <Samson> >]

Yeah, running a cycle @ 20%Bf isn't so swell.

[MickeyKnox]

i didn't look at his profile..my bad. good catch Cape..

Instbred, lay out your entire cycle including pct and any on cycle ai.

[ac guy]

Ok, I'm gonna hijack a little. I've looked, but can't find what bf% is recommended before starting a cycle. What's acceptable?

[MickeyKnox]

15% or under

[< <Samson> >]

The lower the better and the leaner your diet is the better.

Otherwise you will get my results - Fat & Muscle

[JohnnyVegas]

I will also chime in to say that you cannot stop at eight weeks, wait your eight weeks and start again. Time off should be your eight weeks PLUS your PCT time.

Do NOT stop now if you do not have PCT in your possession. Get that straightened out to minimize your risks.

[ac guy]

Thanks guys

[lstbred]

I had planned on a 10 week cycle but was just thinking out loud what would happen at 8. I honestly dont think I'm at 20%bf, but not 15%. For PCT I already have nolva on hand and ordering clomid (40/40/20/20 & 50/50/20/20) I did not use an IA, I have a little water retention & nips are a little tender thats about it BUT I definetly will run it full time on cycle 2. I plan on getting it (amiridex) when I get the clomid, think I should run it for the last couple weeks? Yes, I had planned the down time to start AFTER PCT ended. This is definetly a learning experience and I appreciate the help.

[MickeyKnox]

i see you're located in norcal, shipping is fast from AR-R in the states. i would order aromasin (stane) from the site sponsor AR-R asap if you're going to continue. i believe you can also get clomid there too. if so, get them both you'll should have them within in a few days.

then, immediately run your stane at 12.5mg per day for the first 3 days then eod. keep an eye on your tender nips too. i don't even like that fact that they are a "little" tender. not to panic you but depending on sides, you may have to include light dosing of nolva (10mg/day) on cycle to assist in keeping gyno at bay...if in fact that's what you're experiencing?

lesson learned bro - always run ai on cycle no matter how long or how hard you're shutdown.

[Getinbgr]

What is your planned pct?

That wasn't his question.

[Getinbgr]

i see you're located in norcal, shipping is fast from AR-R in the states. i would order aromasin (stane) from the site sponsor AR-R asap if you're going to continue. i believe you can also get clomid there too. if so, get them both you'll should have them within in a few days.

then, immediately run your stane at 12.5mg per day for the first 3 days then eod. keep an eye on your tender nips too. i don't even like that fact that they are a "little" tender. not to panic you but depending on sides, you may have to include light dosing of nolva (10mg/day) on cycle to assist in keeping gyno at bay...if in fact that's what you're experiencing?

lesson learned bro - always run ai on cycle no matter how long or how hard you're shutdown.

Running an AI while on cycle before any sides is not a golden rule. Search around, and you'll find at least as many folks explaining why you shouldn't just automatically run an AI during the cycle.

[cb714]

8 weeks is a bit short for a long ester cycle. You're still gonna be putting on muscle. Go 10-12 weeks if you have enough, especially since this is your first cycle. This cycle is the one that you make all the best gains, dont cut it short.

Like mentioned above. Get PCT stuff now if you dont have any on hand.

Also, it's not really recommended that you cycle when body fat is high due to increased risk of sides but on the same note, power lifters do it all the time. If you have higher than normal bf% you must understand the risks and take all counter measures to avoid them. Having an AI is an absolute must!

[Capebuffalo]

That wasn't his question.

I'm sorry I don't understand your post. That was my question to him. What is your question?

[MickeyKnox]

I had planned on a 10 week cycle but was just thinking out loud what would happen at 8. I honestly dont think I'm at 20%bf, but not 15%. For PCT I already have nolva on hand and ordering clomid (40/40/20/20 & 50/50/20/20) I did not use an IA, I have a little water retention & nips are a little tender thats about it BUT I definetly will run it full time on cycle 2. I plan on getting it (amiridex) when I get the clomid, think I should run it for the last couple weeks? Yes, I had planned the down time to start AFTER PCT ended. This is definetly a learning experience and I appreciate the help.

Running an AI while on cycle before any sides is not a golden rule. Search around, and you'll find at least as many folks explaining why you shouldn't just automatically run an AI during the cycle.

see bold.

and if what you're saying is true, then the answer is in your answer. it's 50/50. six of one, half a dozen of the other.

i won't push my opinion on you, if you promise not to push yours on me.

[lstbred]

I ordered some IA, I will run it 12.5 ed, I have either 2 or 4 weeks or so left in the cycle (havent decided on 10 or 12 weeks), not optimal but live & learn. Should I run it a week or two before I run my PCT? or should I just stop when my cycle ends?