First cycle test e or cyp or prop

[ozsurf]

Hi
I'm 30 trying to plan out my first cycle.
Have been reading heaps but got a few specific ??? If that's ok ??
I'm currently on clen and t3 to help drop bf .

I'm a little confused on which is better ( and safer for first time.
Will I get results from test e 500mg per week for 12 weeks or am I better off to inject cyp more often and shorter cycle

Also I will b getting my pct from ar-r
Armidex on cycle
Nolvadex clomid pct

What are these named at ar-r

Thanks

[wesholcomb80]

Test e and c are pretty much the same. You will get good results with either one. As they are both long esthers you will not need to pin one more than the other.

[wesholcomb80]

Prop is a short esther which will have to be pinned more often. Some people prefer it as it kicks in fast and you can run a shorter cycle, around 8 weeks. With test e and c it will take 5-6 weeks to start seeing results, and most run a 10-12 week cycle on them. What are your proposed doses on everything and what are your stats?

[ozsurf]

Ok thanks,
I was thinking a shorter ester, only because I have been reading that the t3 can also make u lose muscle.

[wesholcomb80]

What's your bf?

[ozsurf]

Don't really want to rush in maybe I should just stop the t3 until I get everything sorted ?

I'm 30
175 cm
88 kgs
Not sure of exact bf% between 15-18%

[ozsurf]

Proposed doses
500 mg per week

[wesholcomb80]

Personally i don't care for T3, and imo I would work in getting bf down before starting a cycle. You will be less likely to have negative side effects with low bf, like gyno.

[ozsurf]

I'm really still just researching so I don't have exact plan or dosages for everything.

That's why I'm here want to do this safely.

Hoping more people like u will help me out !
Cheers

[ozsurf]

Yep really want to get the bf down b4 I start that's why I'm on the clen

I seem to have a lot of trouble losing weight
I'm not lazy , eat well have a very physical job.
I did a half marathon last year , but even after all the training for that was still carrying 2much bf%

[wesholcomb80]

500mg is a good dose, with test e and c I like to split that up into 2 injections a week, prop will be eod.

Make sure you run a good Ai, I like dex at .25mg eod and you can adjust as needed. Also your pct run clomid and nolva 2 weeks after your last pin. Run them for 4 weeks nolva 40/40/20/20, clomid 100/50/50/50.

[wesholcomb80]

Most important make sure you have a good clean diet in check and hit the gym hard. Go to the nutrition section and post your diet. There are some good people over there that can really help you with that. No matter how much gear you take, without the right diet your wasting your time and money.

[ozsurf]

Thanks so much for your help