T400/Tren Lean bulk help

[prodigious]

Hey guys I'm not looking to start this cycle anytime soon but was just doing the research on it. I've done one cycle with T400 before and am now looking to bulk without gaining any of the excess weight. With the Tren I'm even hoping to strip away a bit more of the fat. I'm 5'9 and 170 lbs with 12% bf. I apologize if there is an archive about this combination somewhere but I am working from my IPhone for te next couple of weeks and could not find it.

What are the differences in taking these separate or together such as in TNT from medi star?

I'm thinking of injecting twice a week, opinions?

What's the best way to do PCT with nolvadex? I'm looking to do a smaller cycle of 400 mg test and 500 mg Tren for around 10 weeks.

Again jut lookin for as much advice as I can get and all information would be much appreciated!

Ps: has anyone tried the same combination I'd love to hear of others experiences

[Capebuffalo]

Do not run tren on your second cycle. What were the results from your first cycle? You are 175@ 5-9. How much did you weigh before you cycle? 23 yrs old is on the cusp but still on the young side. Tell us of your first cycle and what your pct was? Thank you

[prodigious]

My stats in my profile are not current and are from before my first cycle and are slightly off. I started my first at 175 and closer to 16% bf. I ran 400 mg/week for ten weeks. I ran nolvadex starting 18 days after the cycle. I lost about 5lbs and approx 3-4%bf with an increase in strength, pretty much the results I wanted. I wanted to lose the fat without sacrificing LBM.

Tren is not suggested for noobies because of the sides and effects on the body correct? I was considering it because of how it can be both a strong mass builder as well as its effects on fat loss.

[Capebuffalo]

When did you do your last cycle? I'm confused you started @175lbs lost 5 lbs by the end of the cyle. Which you are happy with? Now your 175lbs and want to lose more weight?

[prodigious]

I finished my pct a month ago and am currently at 170lbs. I am now looking to gain size while possibly trimming down the bf% a bit more. But bulkin is what I want, simply without gaining any excess weight. That is why I called it a lean bulk. Is this wrong?

[prodigious]

My next cycle wouldn't be for at least a few months

[Capebuffalo]

My suggestion would to be run test @ 500 mg per week split every 3.5 days. Everything else you are looking for is going to be diet and training related. I have a feeling your diet needs some tweeking. Why don't you post it and see what the feed back is. I don't think you are eating enough. Or enough of the right thing. 5-9 after a cycle you should have seen some nice gains. Lbm. But you lost weight. The diet is going to be key. Any problems just running novla for pct? How long did you run it? I would recommend novla and clomid this time with an ai during cycle.

[prodigious]

Tren only? I ran the nolva for 2 weeks and it went great. If I do Tren I will definately use an AI. I have my diet written down at home but it was approximately 200p 200c 90f. I did a ton of cardio as well because my goal was to lose weight at the time

[Capebuffalo]

No test only. Test. Do not run tren at this stage of your experience.

[prodigious]

My apologies, I misread. Thank you very much for your help

[prodigious]

Bump

[JohnnyVegas]

Since you bumped after getting good advice, I will try to reinforce it. The fact that you say you would definitely use an AI if you ran Tren shows that you don't understand how it works or how to handle the side effects.

Skip Tren for now.

[JohnnyVegas]

Oops. Hit "send" before I was done and can't edit on my app.

Follow the advice above and you should do well. Did you post your current diet in the nutrition section yet? A good diet and Test only will work well.

[jasc]

Oops. Hit "send" before I was done and can't edit on my app.

Follow the advice above and you should do well. Did you post your current diet in the nutrition section yet? A good diet and Test only will work well.

pardon the hijack, but do you use an Iphone or Android?

With Android if you do a long-click (press and hold) on your post a menu pops up to edit it.. not sure on iphone but I'd assume it's the same

[prodigious]

Okay thank you. I'll save Tren for a year or two down the road. Thanks to you both

[prodigious]

And I meant no disrespect to Cape by bumping, I was simply looking for as much info as possible and multiple opinions couldn't hurt

[binsser]

Test only m8 i done tren for first cycle and it can get you in a world of sht lol and you always use test with any cycle and def with tren bud!

[JohnnyVegas]

pardon the hijack, but do you use an Iphone or Android?

With Android if you do a long-click (press and hold) on your post a menu pops up to edit it.. not sure on iphone but I'd assume it's the same

IPhone. I admit I didn't try very hard to figure out how to edit. I will see if that works in the future.

And I meant no disrespect to Cape by bumping, I was simply looking for as much info as possible and multiple opinions couldn't hurt

No, you are right. I didn't mean to sound harsh. I was just trying to make sure you knew that advice was good.

[prodigious]

I also use an iPhone and an still trying to figure stuff out, such as referring back to all my subscribe threads. Any input?