Test Enanthate Winny and Anadrol cycle

[YERRAZZO]

Hi all this would be my 2nd cycle. Im 24 with 4 years in the gym 195lbs, aiming to get some muscle mass and cut a lil at the end. I have test enant 250mg/cc and a 100 pills 50mg of anadrol in my hands. Im planning to get some stanozol later. I would do the test 500mg weekly from 1-10, anadrol from 1-5 week 50mg daily and later at 7th week start the winny till 10 or 11 week. What do u think? Thanks

[YERRAZZO]

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[hankdiesel]

way to long for those orals
never "cut" at the end of a cycle
winny will not "cut you up"
why do you need anadrol on your 2nd cycle?

[YERRAZZO]

Anadrol is what I have now. Wins wont be oral.

[gonebluffn]

I either bulk cycle or cut cycle i dont try to do the same simotaniously if you want to bulk then bulk after your cycle cut your your calories 500 under maintenance level and concentate on 5 to 6 hours cardio a week ,And anadrol on your second cycle I wouldnt recomend .

[miboleron]

I like your cycle - been running similar cycles (you should give winny at least 4 weeks) with great results, but Hank and the other guys are right that you are using too many compounds for your 2-nd cycle.
My proposal for your cycle
1-10 test e at 250 e3d - you need to up the dose little if your previous was 500 ew.
8-12 - winny 50 ed - towards PCT.

[YERRAZZO]

I can take one week off from Anadrol and make it 4. BTW is it safe to run winn from 8-12 week even tho test finished week 10? Thx

[Blergs]

Anadrol is what I have now. Wins wont be oral.

dosent matter its still liver toxice. is basically the pill crushed into the oil. think of it like that. inject winny you can even drink and it will work.
still liver toxic.

listin to the other guy I agree also.

[YERRAZZO]

dosent matter its still liver toxice. is basically the pill crushed into the oil. think of it like that. inject winny you can even drink and it will work.
still liver toxic.

Then what u suggest?? Anadrol w Wins is a bad comination? What would work?

[YERRAZZO]

BTW I dont drink alcohol

[Times Roman]

I'd suggest to decide which goal you want (bulk v cut) and stick with that. Multiple goal cycles don't work too well for many.

[YERRAZZO]

I'd suggest to decide which goal you want (bulk v cut) and stick with that. Multiple goal cycles don't work too well for many.

Im aiming to gain 15-20lbs lean muscle mass. 195 right now with some bf, probably 12-13%. Anadrol would give me some starting push while winn can help me with the lean stuff. Any thoughts

[Gi812Many]

I would save the Winny....

[>Good Luck<]

I think abomb and winny contradict. Drol will make u retain water and winny will dry u out. Both are HIGHLY LIVER TOXIC, not just a little. Drol will make u gain, but it is near impossible to keep it.

Sounds like a waste of money. Why not just go with test and winny? Gain size and stay dry? Just my understanding of the drugs... No personal experience, just reading

[YERRAZZO]

what about anavar instead of winn? Regarding toxicity

[YERRAZZO]

Yeah Ive heard about Anadrol and water retention. I wouldnt be fine losing most of my gains at the end of the cycle. But Im getting confused some of you advise me to keep Anadrol and others the other way around.

[YERRAZZO]

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[>Good Luck<]

Well anadrol is extremely harsh and never recomended for someone newer to aas. Anyone who would say to keep I would seem off IMO. I would hang on to it for future if you really wanna try it, but being your swcond cycle it will do more harm than good. Tour body is still very receptive to aas if you only cycled once so far.

In regards to var, my understanding is that it is a very good product with slow quality gains and it is very mild in all aspects. If it were me, and I was determined to use multiple compounds, I would consider var before any other product. Perhaps running it at 30-50mg daily 8 weeks along side 500 mg test weekly for 10 weeks, but cost is quite high. I have understood that var promoted quality lean hard muscle growth at a slow stead pace and you are most likely to keep what you gain. Water retention is next to nil and sides are also faint. Make sure u have all pct on hand (nolv 20mg saily and clomid 50 mg daily - together) and an ai for the duration of the cycle. I would choose arimidex @ .25mg EOD to start. Fr optimum recovery, hcg would be beneficial at 250iu every 3 days starting 3-4 weeks into cycle and stopping just before pct. Pct should be 12days after test enan last shot.


Now please understand theses are common consensus I have picked up when researching this stuff for my self. As I have said before, I am no doctor or vet, but I would do all of my recommendations for my self with no worries. Drop the drol, drop the winny, if you wan quality strength and size you can keep to some degree

[YERRAZZO]

After reading it all Im decided to drop the Drol which I have in my possession but can return it in exchange for something else. Will stick to Test e 500mg for 10 weeks(have the vials on hand now). I am thinking about lean mass but I know will be somewhat difficult to get 15-20lbs of it which is the gain im aiming to keep after cycle finishes. Im afraid var only wont help me get there. So which partner(s) should I choose to run along with the test-e that can satisfy my purpose at the end? Thank u

[>Good Luck<]

If your diet is in check, and your training with intensity, 15-20lbs should be easy with test alone, and var will only fortify your gains and help keep you dry. It's a great strength gainer, which will be beneficial for your test gains - if you refuse to run test alone...

[gixxerboy1]

your diet is what makes the difference. you dont switch pills or drugs and just go from bulking to cutting. Wtach you diet on a your cycle and you wont need to cut at the end

[>Good Luck<]

your diet is what makes the difference. you dont switch pills or drugs and just go from bulking to cutting. Wtach you diet on a your cycle and you wont need to cut at the end

IMO- cutting drugs are for competition BBers and shouldn't be taken otherwise. Some people can't be talked out of taking multiple compounds an stacking all sorts of goodies up for the "more is better" effect lol more sides, more toxicity , more damage - and harder to come off probably. Unfortunately, diet is the hardest part of this lifestyle

[YERRAZZO]

Hi I sarted cycling today im putting the test e 500mg week and 50mg anadrol daily for 4 weeks. Drinking more than a gallon of water daily and Ill add milk thistle to protect the liver shouldnt be big deal. On week 7 will start intramuscular wins. Should I run any AI from now? I have a full bottle of letro right now 2.5mg/ml. I have some clomid ill use for PCT and will get HCG in the upcoming days. Thx

[>Good Luck<]

Hi I sarted cycling today im putting the test e 500mg week and 50mg anadrol daily for 4 weeks. Drinking more than a gallon of water daily and Ill add milk thistle to protect the liver shouldnt be big deal. On week 7 will start intramuscular wins. Should I run any AI from now? I have a full bottle of letro right now 2.5mg/ml. I have some clomid ill use for PCT and will get HCG in the upcoming days. Thx

Back at square one???

Not to sure y your still seeking advice. Seems like you've made up your mind already so do it your way and let us know how it goes. No point wasting time advising you if you don't care to listen to the logic and change your course of action.

Best of luck for your bulking cutting cycle...

[YERRAZZO]

Hi there after hearing different opinions and advice from many people I decided to cycle this way. Not bulk-cutting, just bulk for now, but some lean mass at least. Obviously it was not the choice you some others at the forum wanted for me to take but I guess you can't make everyone happy at the same time with the decisions you make.

I need to hear from you if I need to run letro(which I have now, can't get adex or nolva) at small dosages to prevent gyno or any side effect of the A-bombs, if it would be a wise move. Or if you just wait for any signs of gyno like a sore nipple for ex, to run it. Just to get your opinion, everyones matter. Thank you all

[wmaousley]

If I were you I would drop either the Winstrol or Anadrol, no need for both

[Turkish Juicer]

Just run the either oral at a dose of 50mg ED for the first 5 weeks and run Test E at 500mg EW for 10 weeks.

[YERRAZZO]

And about the letro? Standby? Also should I start clomid and hcg at the 10th week? thx

[Turkish Juicer]

You do NOT need Letro to control estrogen, Arimidex 0.25mg EOD will do the job as the primary AI in this rather novice cycle.

If you develop gyno and try to reverse it, then Letro is recommended. Otherwise, it is an overkill for this cycle. If you have it, just keep it in a cool and dry place for a possible future use.

You should start HCG injections from the first day and run this compound up until PCT. 250iu E3D is the recommended dose to maintain healthy testicular functions throughout the cycle, which allows for faster and overall better recovery.

Nolvadex and Clomid will enter the scene with PCT, meaning 2 weeks after your last pinning of Test E.

[YERRAZZO]

Thanks a lot!!