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    Test Implants...?

    I just found out my testosterone level is 16ng/dl. My doc says that is very low even for a woman and wants to give my testosterone implants. These implants are very expensive and isn't covered by my insurance.

    Is there another way I can get this form of testosterone? He says it's pure testosterone and not anabolic .

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    Use test gel (Androgel ) instead.

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    While I am male, I just had the Testopel implants done about 6 weeks ago. My insurance mostly covered, but they were quite expensive to get. Results are good so far, but ask me in another 2 months. For a woman, I would suggest injections or gels/creams. You generally need far less test. than us males. Applying a small amount of gel or compounded cream seems like a good way to go.

    You could also inject small amounts of test. cyp. once a week...it would not take very much to do the job and would be pretty inexpensive in comparison to anything else.

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    What were your estro levels?
    How old are you?

    Are you:

    - Pre or post-menopausal?
    - Healthy (eating, exercising, major surgeries, etc.)?
    - Sleeping well?

    There is limited data establishing normal androgen values for women of differing ages, so it's easy for a doc to erroneously cite androgen deficiency. A second opinion might be a good idea.
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    I'm 38 and in good health other than being hypothyroid and I do sleep well except for when my kids come jump in bed with me at 2am! LOL

    I don't see any estrogen results.

    My doc says I am in the "normal range" for my age group, but he would like to get me to the levels typical of a 20 y/o girl. He says that would be b/t 200-3--ng/dl

    I'm getting ready to start a clen /T3 cycle for the first time, but I was also wanting to make sure all my other levels were good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlily01 View Post
    I'm 38 and in good health other than being hypothyroid and I do sleep well except for when my kids come jump in bed with me at 2am! LOL

    I don't see any estrogen results.

    My doc says I am in the "normal range" for my age group, but he would like to get me to the levels typical of a 20 y/o girl. He says that would be b/t 200-3--ng/dl

    I'm getting ready to start a clen/T3 cycle for the first time, but I was also wanting to make sure all my other levels were good.
    200-300 ng/dl??!!! That is the low end of the spectrum for a man, and would cause you to grow a beard and back hair in no time.
    Find a different doctor.

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    lol thanks

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    Women level is between 30-95 ng/dl

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    that's what I thought and he said that is a general level given for women my age, but that there is no reason I can't once again have the levels of a 20 y/o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlily01 View Post
    that's what I thought and he said that is a general level given for women my age, but that there is no reason I can't once again have the levels of a 20 y/o
    No 20 year old woman has test levels of 300ng/dl. That would cause serious virilization (development of masculine features). Again, your doc is clueless and obviously used to working with men.

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    I'll have to tell my my friend, he just put the implants in her.

    thanks

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    I would try the inject if your doctor will allow.

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    he said he had a one a week injection but it hurt and wouldn't keep the levels up for an entire week. If that was the case I don't see why I couldn't break it up and do it multiple times during the week. I don't mind the pain, needles don't bother me.

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    I wouldn't do injections for the dose of Test you need. My wife has high estrogen and low testosterone , progesterone and DHEA. She uses a compounded cream every morning it and it has done great things for her energy, emotional swings and libido. She is very happy.

    Since you are talking about Test only, I don't think that won't effect your use of hormonal birth control but you might want to triple check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas View Post
    I wouldn't do injections for the dose of Test you need. My wife has high estrogen and low testosterone , progesterone and DHEA. She uses a compounded cream every morning it and it has done great things for her energy, emotional swings and libido. She is very happy.

    Since you are talking about Test only, I don't think that won't effect your use of hormonal birth control but you might want to triple check.
    If a true HRT, I don't think it would affect her menstrual cycle.
    But the dose that her doc suggested would probably stop down her menstrual cycle entirely (as is commonplace for women using male hormones).

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    Since I've had my tubes tied, not having a period would be okay with me! LOL

    I thought about the creams, but read most of it turns to estrogen as it is absorbed through the fat layer.
    I'm wanting to take var in a few weeks, wouldn't that just solve my problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlily01 View Post
    Since I've had my tubes tied, not having a period would be okay with me! LOL

    I thought about the creams, but read most of it turns to estrogen as it is absorbed through the fat layer.
    I'm wanting to take var in a few weeks, wouldn't that just solve my problem?
    Actually, gels have a higher conversion to DHT vs estrogen than injectables (in men, at least), as the 5a-reductase enzyme is concentrated in your skin. And you apply the gel to a lean area, like the inside of your wrist. And yeah, Var would solve your problem temporarily.

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    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    But the dose that her doc suggested would probably stop down her menstrual cycle entirely (as is commonplace for women using male hormones).
    Jeez, I didn't notice the doctor's goal until I saw your comment and scrolled up to reread.

    My wife's levels were in the teens as well, but the doctor wants her around 100 max. Not hijacking, just comparing notes.

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    Thanks, it's always nice to hear from ppl that have been through it and those that are knowledgeable about it.

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