About to buy for the first time and don't trust the dealer fully.

Hey,

So I am about to get my first cycle and I asked my guy what
my overall testosterone would be on cycle (in comparison to my normal cycle).

I figured this would be the safest way to knowing for sure whether he intended
on watering down the gear. - I know that he can get them and I know
he knows how to use them

His response to this was "couldn't tell you, maybe 4 or 5 times the usual level".

He himself has done 4 cycles and this sounds strange to me.

Could someone please let me know whether this sounds strange, and what the
total amount (more than usual) my test levels should be.


The main gear I will be using is vials of Test-E.

Any other advice appreciated.

what i find strange is your question, and i rekon he is proberly thinking the same thing.
what is your proposed cycle. what are your stats and history

Agree with auswest your question raises alot of red flags. Before anyone with any real sense will answer your question we need to know the info auswest asked for.

PS - auswest ur avatar is THE SHIT!!

There is no definate answer to your question either

Your question sounds stranger then his answer

And what do you mean watering down gear?

If the vial hasnt been used then he cant ''water it down'', you do know you cant add water to oil yeah?

If you want to know what your levels will be then run the test for a few weeks and get bloodwork done, its that simple

I wasn't being literal with "water down". Why cant it be "watered down" with oil??

It seems like the 1 way you could tell for certain whether you got full strength gear would be to get your test levels
done while on it.
If they are way below what is expected then you know what happened.

Alistair Overeem recently got caught with levels 14 times normal so I would be expecting an
answer around there.
I would have thought this is something all users would learn (or pay attention to).

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Originally Posted by The-Cali-Dude

I wasn't being literal with "water down". Why cant it be "watered down" with oil??

It seems like the 1 way you could tell for certain whether you got full strength gear would be to get your test levels
done while on it.
If they are way below what is expected then you know what happened.

Alistair Overeem recently got caught with levels 14 times normal so I would be expecting an
answer around there.
I would have thought this is something all users would learn (or pay attention to).

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You just answered your own question

How exactly did that answer my own question?

So they should be 14 times more??

Gear that is supposed to push me to 14 but only gets watered down half would still give me registering levels.
Unless I know before I get the bloods done I have no idea whether its been cut.

That was a test to e ratio of 14 times which tells us nothing there is 101 variables there

And I never said oil can't be added, I didn't know if you were being literal with your statement, plenty of people here would actually think that so I had to say it

I don't know anybody that cares what their test level is on cycle and besides that, for the cycles with anything more than the basic 500mg, your levels will prob be over the range that most labs measure so you still won't get an answer

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Originally Posted by The-Cali-Dude

How exactly did that answer my own question?

So they should be 14 times more??

Gear that is supposed to push me to 14 but only gets watered down half would still give me registering levels.
Unless I know before I get the bloods done I have no idea whether its been cut.

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You need to slow down, your using wrong info, look into exactely how they came up with that figure then look into how you would measure your test levels

And if you don't trust your source then don't buy it, find out the lab name and Google it. That will give you feedback on the gear and if its underdosed