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05-24-2012, 10:15 PM #1New Member
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Deca/Test cycle help
Hey guys need some help with my next cycle. I'm 24, 6'1, 200 pounds. Around 10-12% bodyfat. Been working out for about 6 years. I've done two previous cycles . Winny/eqcycle was my first and then I ran a Test prop only cycle. For my third cycle I wanted to run Deca and Test Enthanate. I also have some winny/eq that I would like to incorporate towards the end to help lean out. As far as my PCT , I'll be taking clomid and post cycle/unleashed. And then Adex and HcGenerate on cycle for support. Can someone help me out on a good length of times I could run the Deca and Test as well as the winny/eq?
Was thinking of running something like this:
Test Enth: weeks 1-12
Deca: weeks 1-8
Winny/EQ: weeks 8-12
Comments please
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05-24-2012, 10:48 PM #2
i like test e at 14 weeks and deca at 12 weeks deca takes a long time to kick in so 12 weeks is the optimal length IMO.
What are you planned dosages?? No experience with eq but finishing the cycle by adding in 4 weeks of winny will work well.
what is your HCG Plan?
Would suggest Nolva/Clomid PCT as Deca will shut you down...
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05-24-2012, 11:33 PM #3New Member
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Thanks for the reply Bob87, I've read wear Deca and Nolva were not good to use on the same cycle. Is this just a myth? Deca 300mg/wk and Test E 500mg/week. I'm going to take the HcGenerate weeks 4-14 to help with the shut down and keep my boys plumped.
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05-24-2012, 11:54 PM #4
i Have not read that do you have a link to this.... Technically your nolva will start 4 weeks after your deca so i dont see how that could be a problem.
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05-25-2012, 12:28 AM #5
The Eq will be a waste unless you're running it the whole way through.
I like the sound of the 14 week test e and 12 week Deca with Winny at the end. Nolva will be fine in your PCT. just my opinion though.
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05-25-2012, 03:18 AM #6
That is a lie nova and clomid for pct.
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05-25-2012, 04:31 AM #7Originally Posted by songdog
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05-25-2012, 05:32 AM #8
12 weeks of deca & 14 weeks of test is way too long.
You will stop seeing results/gains off this combo right around week 6-7. 9 weeks of deca and 11 weeks of test is just right. You will be doing your balls & your body no justice taking anything longer than 9 or 10 weeks of deca. Deca is very potent and you'll just be doing yourself more harm.
I would run HCG throughout the cycle every Monday & Thursday at 25o iu to prevent shrinkage. You know what they say... It's better to prevent than to recover from shrinkage.
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05-25-2012, 05:45 AM #9
Go with 14 and 12 weeks those are both long esters
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05-25-2012, 08:43 AM #10Originally Posted by songdog
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05-25-2012, 09:44 AM #11New Member
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Thanks for all the imput guys. I'll need to go pick up some nolva.
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05-25-2012, 12:00 PM #12Originally Posted by dustinn07
182 to 210 and have kept all of my gains. again don't mess with that crap from EF especially of you are going to do a hardcore cycle like the one you are planning.
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05-25-2012, 12:02 PM #13
PS. when I was planningy cycle I IM'd and Ellite fitness subscriber who ran the same cycle and ram the same natural supps your mentioned and he told me that he had terrible
sides and zero erection. I had no issues what's so ever in that Departement.
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05-25-2012, 12:28 PM #14
you can use nolva for pct.
What you are thinking of is that gyno from deca is from progesterone. Nolva will not help with that.
What is in bold is completely incorrectIf people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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05-25-2012, 03:34 PM #15New Member
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Yea from what I've researched you need to run Deca for atleast 12 weeks and I want to run the test for an additional 2 weeks to help from getting "deca di**" I'm around 197-200 pounds now and hope to get around 210-215 after this cycle. I believe that the test E stays in your system for about 14 days so 2 weeks after my last prick i'll need to start my PCT. The clomid I'll run 100,50,50,25. Not to sure about the Nolva? What kind of dosage do you guys recommend?
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05-25-2012, 05:08 PM #16
40/40/20/20 on the nolva
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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05-25-2012, 07:22 PM #17
Thanxs for jumping on that deca gain thing.I wonder where they get this info from.
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05-25-2012, 07:32 PM #18Originally Posted by decaDump
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05-25-2012, 09:05 PM #19Junior Member
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Dude,I know where you read up these infomations.On another forum,people say that deca + nolva = bad,and ...a lot of different opnions!
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05-26-2012, 05:22 AM #20
Keep deca at 9 weeks and test at 11 weeks. Deca s really potent. You'll only be doing yourself harm if you do excess.
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05-26-2012, 05:28 AM #21Originally Posted by bob87
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05-26-2012, 05:32 AM #22Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
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05-26-2012, 08:24 AM #23If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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05-26-2012, 09:15 AM #24Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
My stats are fine. I'm lean & athletic. I am constantly asked how I eat, train, my cardio & any tips I can give so they could achieve my results... and PRE gear!!! I'd be more than happy and show you my 8% bf picture.
I've read time and time again how any cycle longer than 10-11 weeks is counter productive and in order to see continual gains after you've reached your threshold, you'd have to increase the dosage, thus intoxicating your body by consuming higher milligrams. Now tell me why would anyone that is taking gear for recreational reasons only, want to put their body through that stress?
Funny how you can judge according to my posts but can't take my word from experience. I'm sure you don't have a Phd (no offense) and telling people to over medicate doesn't make you feel slightly bad???Last edited by decaDump; 05-26-2012 at 09:33 AM.
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05-26-2012, 09:17 AM #25
i believe that was your experience. And i know you had that experience because other things were lacking. Not because that is how deca works.
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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05-26-2012, 10:16 PM #26New Member
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Eq isn't worth running unless you do atleast 8 - 12 weeks worth IMO. The deca takes time, say 10 weeks should be good for deca. Just make sure your pct runs smoothly. Bc my experience running deca, it brings your test levels to almost zero. Clomid works well, throw in natural supps: Tribulus, Tongkat Ali, Fenugreek extract.
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05-27-2012, 04:51 AM #27Originally Posted by ny_italian
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05-27-2012, 01:53 PM #28New Member
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Jandj - I like this previous cycle you did and I have all the same on/off supps as you except for the Nolva which I'm still trying to find. 182-210 is a really solid gain bro. I'm probably going to do something very similar.
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