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    BR0DIE is offline Associate Member
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    Sound good for a second cycle?

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    First was Test Prop at 150mg eod for 8 weeks.

    Planning on:

    Test Prop: 15mg ed for 8 weeks
    Tren Ace: 75mg ed for 8 weeks

    Arimidex : 0.5mg eod for 8 weeks
    Caber: ???
    HCG : 250iu eod for 8 weeks

    Nolva: 40/40/20/20
    Clomid: 100/100/50/50

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    Tren is pretty harsh stuff. You're only 24 and you're already on a second cycle and want to do Tren? Did you do blood work? Are you back to normal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02
    Tren is pretty harsh stuff. You're only 24 and you're already on a second cycle and want to do Tren? Did you do blood work? Are you back to normal?
    I'll be 25 by the time I start this.

    My last cycle was very light and I used HCG and the same PCT. I feel completely fine although I know I should have got bw done before/after.

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    It doesn't matter whether you'll be 25 or 35 by the time you start this cycle, your second cycle should not involve Tren , as simple as that.

    Test Prop 150mg EOD for 8 weeks is plenty of fast acting test, you can bet on it that you will get satisfactory results if nutrition and training are spot on.

    On a another note, you may not even need to start your Arimidex at 0.5mg EOD, half that dose is a better starting dose and you can always bump it up if serious estrogen sides occur.

    HCG 250iu E3D is sufficient, don't run that dose EOD, as this will be unnecessary and wasteful. You can always bump the dose up to 500iu E3D if there occurs significant testicular atrophy during your cycle, which is not very likely to happen if you are already running HCG.

    Your PCT starts 3 days after the last pinning of Test Prop and you certainly do NOT need to run Clomid at 100mg ED for the first 2 weeks since Clomid may have you experience some considerable sides unlike Nolva, and such dosing is an overkill for a rather novice cycle at any rate.

    Do you know how you should be eating while on cycle and during PCT???

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    ^^^Solid advice above. .5 adex eod may crush your E level. .25 much better. Remember it has slightly over a 46 hr half life. Listen to Turk.

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    Tren on a second cycle, nah. Maybe test e or cyp with say eq or something along those lines. IMO you only need HCG if you run a cycle for 12 weeks+

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    Quote Originally Posted by ny_italian View Post
    you only need HCG if you run a cycle for 12 weeks+
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer
    It doesn't matter whether you'll be 25 or 35 by the time you start this cycle, your second cycle should not involve Tren , as simple as that.

    Test Prop 150mg EOD for 8 weeks is plenty of fast acting test, you can bet on it that you will get satisfactory results if nutrition and training are spot on.

    On a another note, you may not even need to start your Arimidex at 0.5mg EOD, half that dose is a better starting dose and you can always bump it up if serious estrogen sides occur.

    HCG 250iu E3D is sufficient, don't run that dose EOD, as this will be unnecessary and wasteful. You can always bump the dose up to 500iu E3D if there occurs significant testicular atrophy during your cycle, which is not very likely to happen if you are already running HCG.

    Your PCT starts 3 days after the last pinning of Test Prop and you certainly do NOT need to run Clomid at 100mg ED for the first 2 weeks since Clomid may have you experience some considerable sides unlike Nolva, and such dosing is an overkill for a rather novice cycle at any rate.

    Do you know how you should be eating while on cycle and during PCT???
    Thanks for the advice, test prop at 150mg eod for 8 weeks was my first cycle.
    This one I wanted to keep prop very low and run tren.

    First cycle I ran .25mg of adex eod and ended up with some bloat on my face, so I upped it to 0.5mg and I'll probably just use it at that dose on every cycle from now on.

    I just keep hearing about the power of tren and it seems to be a wonder drug.

    I have 40 amps of Test E, would I be better just running that at 750mg for 12 weeks?
    Never used a long ester before so I may kickstart some prop.

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    So when you said 15mgs of prop, it wasn't a typo? I thought it was 150 and you just forgot the 0. In any case, those guys are right about the tren . Save that for another time.

    And yeah, the test e kickstarted w/prop is a much better idea. That's going to be my next cycle as a matter of fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ny_italian View Post
    IMO you only need HCG if you run a cycle for 12 weeks+
    Disagreed.

    Any cycle over 6 weeks require HCG would be a much more solid generalization if we had to make one.

    I know guys whose balls will shrink significantly on the 4th week of their long estered cycles, which may sound drastic to those who don't experience this on a similar level but everyone is different.

    At any rate, HCG helps to maintain relatively healthier testicular functions during a cycle by preventing them to be completely shut down, hence paving the road for a faster and better overall recovery once PCT starts.

    ... so, it is pretty bold to say you wouldn't need a substance that does all of this unless you are running a 12 week or longer cycle, considering that testicular atrophy can and will occur earlier than that.

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    double post

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete
    So when you said 15mgs of prop, it wasn't a typo? I thought it was 150 and you just forgot the 0. In any case, those guys are right about the tren . Save that for another time.

    And yeah, the test e kickstarted w/prop is a much better idea. That's going to be my next cycle as a matter of fact.
    Yeah I meant 15mg, basically a trt dose of test then let the tren do the work.

    Gonna run 750mg test e for 10 weeks with maybe an oral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BR0DIE View Post
    Yeah I meant 15mg, basically a trt dose of test then let the tren do the work.

    Gonna run 750mg test e for 10 weeks with maybe an oral.
    15 mg. is not a TRT dose, its not even 1/4 of a TRT dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79
    15 mg. is not a TRT dose, its not even 1/4 of a TRT dose.
    15mg everday so it would be 105mg per week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BR0DIE View Post
    15mg everday so it would be 105mg per week.
    Sorry, I didn't catch the everyday part, but that's still low.

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