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    Exclamation First Test - Deca - Dbol Cycle (My Pictures Included)

    Hello everyone, I have been working out for years and I'm going to start my first cycle next week and I have been reading and searching for a very long time.

    Stats:
    Age: 28
    Height: 5'11"
    Weight: 175 lbs
    BF: 15 %
    Goal: To gain noticeable muscle mass and strength.

    Not to be rude, but if you are not experienced enough then keep your info for yourself because I have noticed so many ****ed up info.

    The Cycle: (pyramid)

    Week 01: test 200mgs - deca 100mgs - Dbol 25mgs/d
    Week 02: test 300mgs - deca 200mgs - Dbol 25mgs/d
    Week 03: test 300mgs - deca 200mgs - Dbol 25mgs/d
    Week 04: test 300mgs - deca 200mgs - Dbol 25mgs/d
    Week 05: test 300mgs - deca 200mgs - HCG 250iu twice a week
    Week 06: test 300mgs - deca 200mgs - HCG 250iu twice a week
    Week 07: test 300mgs - deca 200mgs - HCG 250iu twice a week - nolvadex 10mgs/day
    Week 08: test 300mgs - deca 100mgs - HCG 250iu twice a week - nolvadex 10mgs/day
    Week 11: test 300mgs - nolvadex 10mgs/day
    Week 12: test 200mgs - nolvadex 10mgs/day
    - I'll be injecting both test and deca every 4 days to control their levels.

    PCT
    : Starting a week after last test shot
    Week 1-2 HCG 500iu/day
    Week 1-4 nolvadex 20mgs/day

    - Many will disagree about the way I'm going to run the HCG.
    That's where I need serious help. I need to prevent the testicular shrinking. I also heard that including HCG in the cycle helps you keep both weight and strength gains besides speeding up recovery.

    Diet:
    3500 caloeies
    Working out days: 250g pro - 350g carbs - 66g fats
    Off days: 250g pro - 250g carbs - 66g fats
    I'll be adding more calories during the cycle based on the gains.

    Supplements:
    Whey - casein

    Training
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    1 Chest - 15 mins HIIT cardio on treadmill.
    2 Back.
    3 Abs - Forearms - Calves - 15 mins HIIT cardio on treadmill.
    4 Biceps - Triceps.
    5 Shoulders - Legs - 15 mins HIIT cardio on treadmill.
    6 Off.
    7 Off.

    Expected Replies:
    - I'm not ready and I should wait to gain more naturally.
    I would say thanks for the advice but it is not an option, although I still see gains when I'm on a good diet. I just need to speed things up.
    - 200mgs of deca is not much.
    That's how I prefer to start because it is my 1st cycle.
    - Stack of 3 different steroids is a bad idea, because it is hard to know what would cause a bad effect.
    Well, I agree and I know I would gain good weight on test only, but as I said I wanna get great results and I kept the doses to the minimum.




    Here is my current look:
    EDITED:
    I deleted my picture but I'll post another one.
    Last edited by MFM; 06-04-2012 at 06:46 AM.

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    If you are going to dismiss the advice before it is given. Why even ask? Everything you know to be a reply is the answer for a reason. Good luck.

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    No offense, but how many years exactly? Because it doesn't really look like you put much into your training

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    One you didn't think of. At 5-11 @ 175lbs your to light. You can grow more with out steroids . You need a better base to start. Your diet needs help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    If you are going to dismiss the advice before it is given. Why even ask? Everything you know to be a reply is the answer for a reason. Good luck.
    If you wanna disagree more go ahead and let me hear your advice. What I mentioned is something can get different opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manmanman View Post
    No offense, but how many years exactly? Because it doesn't really look like you put much into your training
    I look better but I don't know why the pics looked this way, I'll add other pics. I have been working out for years on and off, but recently I have been working out for 8 months and I gained around 8 kgs besides dropping 4 % of BF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    One you didn't think of. At 5-11 @ 175lbs your to light. You can grow more with out steroids. You need a better base to start. Your diet needs help.
    my diet is around 3000 calories with around 200g pro - 300 carbs. I was 165lbs.

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    1 st cycle 500 mg per week of test e split into shots Mon. Thur. Pct consist of novla @ 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50. You don't need anything more. This is a proven first cycle. If you train and eat more you will grow and get stronger. Ai like armidex @.25 eod. Hcg 250 mcg 2 x a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    1 st cycle 500 mg per week of test e split into shots Mon. Thur. Pct consist of novla @ 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50. You don't need anything more. This is a proven first cycle. If you train and eat more you will grow and get stronger. Ai like armidex @.25 eod. Hcg 250 mcg 2 x a week
    Thanks a lot, and I would love to know how much should be the expected weight gain?

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    Everybody is different. I can say you will get out of it what you put in it. I would post my diet in the nutrition section and get feed back. Diet is 90% of any cycle. If you get it in check before you start you will see good results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFM View Post
    my diet is around 3000 calories with around 200g pro - 300 carbs. I was 165lbs.
    Everyone that is too small to start using aaaalways uses the line, "well I used to weigh ____" Almost never fails that you will hear this from guys under 200

    It doesn't matter what you used to weigh. You should have a solid base before you start using. Up your calories to 4000. Try to get around 300-350g of protein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    1 st cycle 500 mg per week of test e split into shots Mon. Thur. Pct consist of novla @ 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50. You don't need anything more. This is a proven first cycle. If you train and eat more you will grow and get stronger. Ai like armidex @.25 eod. Hcg 250 mcg 2 x a week
    i agree with this.

    your cycle has 2 many compounds. No ai., pct timing is off. Not dosing correctly. Its honestly a mess. Follow Cape's advice
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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