help with somewhat noobie cycle?

[infantry13]

Ok guys I've been doing my research on cycles, and i've come up with this. Note that i have done some light d-bol cycles with less aggressive PCT's in the past (essentially because it was all i could get). I finally got a decent source so i can actually do test now. My stats are cuz i know yall'er gonna ask is 22 I'm 5'6 i weigh 165-170 and am consistently under 10% body fat. My family history height/ body weight wise my dad is 5'7 he weighs 145 lbs same with my grandpa until he got old lol. I've been working out for the past 4 years very hard considering i've been in the military for that long.

ok to the cycle-

Week 1-10 [Test-E 500 mg/week 2 shots a week 3.5 days apart at 250 mg]
Week 1-4 [D-bol 30mg/day 10 mg every 8 hours]
Week 1-10 [Arimidex .25 mg/ day]

PCT

Week 1- 100mg clomid/day, 50mg Nolva/day, .5 mg Arimidex/day
Week 2- 100mg clomid/day, 40mg Nolva/day, .5 mg Arimidex/day
Week 3- 50mg clomid/day, 40mg Nolva/day, .25 mg Arimidex/day
Week 4- 50mg clomid/day, 20mg Nolva/day, .25 mg Arimidex/day


I'd appreciate hearty answers no flaming please i really hate putting up with it. I've done a lot of research and waited til i was 22, but there comes a time that i really do believe i've reached my genetic limits and I'm an infantry man being stronger keeps me alive. This isn't a search for merely vain delites this is to get me home.

Thank you all very much!

[austinite]

Welcome to the forum.

You are still too young to cycle. Trust me, you haven't reached your limits. You should really look into the diet section and get some critique, you would be amazed how changes in diet can yield results.

ps. Thank you for your services. Good luck.

[maxmuscle1090]

thanks for servin bro!!!! what branch?? i take it your a grunt , any way cycle looks nice bro, only thing your arimidex during PCT arimidex has shown to lower nolva potensy when taking together..just something to keep in mind..other then that seems good to go should see some nice gains!!!

[gixxerboy1]

you are still to young.
And you can not go buy your fathers size to determine your limit.

[Flacco]

Thanks for serving dude. Do you think most SEALS/Special Forces guys cycle? I'm sure some do/have. Most, if they're smart, strengthen their bodies without any special help from chemicals/substances. You don't wanna be out in the shit, feeling tired because you remember how much better you felt when you had a shot of Test running through your bloodstream. It could effect your confidence... say you do a cycle, propper pct, and loose most of your gains over a few months bc you're burning cals and not eating enough out in the shit... You'll think "Man, I'm alot weeker than I was a few months ago." I'm sure adrenaline will make up for fatigue or weekness to some extent. But it will effect you psychologically. You want to know that you can do it on your own, without AAS. Size is bullsh1t. Some of the most badass mofos are the smallest. I've never been in the military but my family has. My Dad went though BUDS (SEAL Training). He was a savage, and only at 180 lbs 6'2". My Brother is NAVY Explosive Ordinance Disposal. He has experience working with all types of the best soldiers. He tells me that most of the time... the bigger guys aren't the ones who nessesarily make it though training. It's the smaller guys... guys 5'10-6' 180 lbs, lean, who make it. If you're going overseas, to war... you don't wanna add weight... you want to strengthen the muscle you have now. Be the strongest you can be at your natural body weight. Harden up. Like I said... I've never served... never been to war... I have some knowledge/experience with AAS. I know that I started taking them too early and I regret it. Build your confidence on what is real. Not artaficial help. I guess it comes down to weather you want to look strong/badass for a little while, or if you actually want to be a badass. Again, Thanks for serving You should be proud. Very Honorable.

[infantry13]

ah yea man i've been to afghanistan twice this is my third that I'm on right now... I mean i figured i'd get a lot of the you're too young to be doing this comment i've followed these forums for the last year or two, and i hope you all know I'm not trying to be ignorant or immature I've just been in this profession long enough. As for who does steroids I'm not going to lower anyones regard of anyone in the service its not my place to say whether or not anyone is cycling. Something that a lot of people have to keep in mind is that two tours in afghanistan (this being the third) dramatically effects your hormones. From the physician i've talked to those areas of your body age the equivalent of 2-4 years in a course of a tour. Physically i really feel like I've hit a brick wall as far as gains go i mean I've been stuck between 165 and 170 extremely lean for a year i bench over 315, squat 425 and DL 485... I'm sorry I'm not going to argue the fact of whether I'm ready or not. I just know that the test-e is one of the easier tests to work with with some d-bol to jump start.

oh and thank you austinite for the welcome, and thank you max i didn't know that arimidex effected nolva (I know I'm a noob) thats the kinda critiques i was hoping to hear though. Thank you very much!!!

i was thinking would proviron help free up that test-e i was getting or would it be useless to use in the stack just to bind to SHBG and albumin just to make more of that test active?

[JDBeretta]

Okay, so back to the cycle here... This is a steroid forum, not a circle jerk for the military.

I am of the opinion that you are a little on the young-side to be venturing into the world of AAS. I know you've done some dbols or whatever, but you should consider taking the diet advice posted thus far. You get big from doing curls with a fork in your hand with food on it.

For the cycle, I think 10 weeks is too short for a test enan cycle. Personally, I'd be running for at least a month longer than that. I know all these guys have the opinion that short cycles are best (and I see the logic), but my opinion is that I'm just starting to see good gains at 8 weeks (the gains that aren't water weight), so I run a bit longer.

The Arimidex should be run while on cycle @ .5mgs eod. If you are really below 10% bf, maybe don't run the Arimidex from the get-go. Have it on hand in case you need it.

The PCT seems okay, but maybe a little high on the dosages for a simple test cycle.

By the way, this is a great first cycle. Very similar to my first cycle, and it was my best, by far.

[infantry13]

thanks bereta man i wasn't trying to make it a military circle jerk it was more meant to explain an accelerated growth process (that shit has been proven)... however i really respect the input and i have been arguing with myself between 10wk and 14wk (thats why I'm here). As for the arimidex i was planning on it just cuz i don't know its my first time doing this shit i guess I'm just being overly cautious I'm sure when i get back to eating more freely i'll go back to like 12% i constantly cut then bulk try to keep my body confused. I've been using the diet section on this site for awhile. probably the best diet resource on the internet. Thanks for the response i appreciate it

[JDBeretta]

Maybe run .25mgs/eod while on cycle and remove it from your pct.

Nolva and Clomid will be sufficient and Adex can hinder the effectiveness of them.

As for the duration of your cycle, run for 10 weeks and see where you're at. If you want to keep it going (you are still noticing gains and haven't plateaued in regards to the gear), just run it out for a few more weeks. I wouldn't go any longer than 14 for a first cycle though.

[infantry13]

like i said thanks again man... yea i'll def go up to 14 wks if that I'm not trying to take any risks and again i really appreciate the advice the exact kinda stuff i was hoping to get cheers brotha

[JDBeretta]

like i said thanks again man... yea i'll def go up to 14 wks if that I'm not trying to take any risks and again i really appreciate the advice the exact kinda stuff i was hoping to get cheers brotha

No prob. If you ever need any clarification on cycles like this one, feel free to hit me up. If I don't know the answer, I can point you in the right direction.

You're going to do what you're going to do, but I suggest you give it a couple of years until you are completely "out of the woods" in terms of endocrine development.

[cb714]

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