Sustanon/Growth Cycle and Dosage Question

[UsKidsKnow]

Hi everyone,

Just embarked on my second cycle two days ago.

I'm running just 250mg a week of Sust, in addition to dbol (40mg) and oxymetholone (anadrol) (25mg day only). Should I up the sust intake? From what I've been reading, it looks like most cycle are 4-500mg per week of test.

I'm also doing Growth (Somatropin) 5-6 months. The dosage is two days on, one day off. I've been reading measurements for growth in "iu" recommending 15-20 per day, but my needle only goes to 10 and I was recommended to not go past "1" per injection. I wish I could explain better.

Appreciate your feedback.

[gixxerboy1]

what are your stats and goals of that cycle?

All gh is somatropin. What brand gh do you have?
apparently you have no idea on dosing of gh. Yes gh is dosed in iu's. 15-20ius a day. good luck with the sides and affording that.
where you go on the pin all goes buy how much gh is in your vial and how much water you diluted it with.
With what you told us. it can be any dose going to 1 on your pin

[UsKidsKnow]

I'm 31 years old, 6-2 and 234 lbs. My goals are mass gaining primarily, but also to trim (which is why the addition of the growth).

"1" on my pin is comparable to 100micrograms, so I think that's 10iu per day. I've read that 15iu daily is the recommended dosage, yes.

I was recommended not to run a PCT with this cycle but am thinking of adding a 3week Clomid. Do you have any thoughts on that?

[gixxerboy1]

you need to use pct on any cycle. I would do 4 weeks of clomid and nolva. How many weeks is your cycle

hgh isnt in mcg's. Its in iu's

what brand of gh do you have? And how much water are you puting in the vial?

[UsKidsKnow]

I'm going to have to get back to you on the brand of the GH.

I'll still be running the GH after my last shot of sust. Should I run the clomid at the same time as the GH, or should I wait until everything's finished and then start running?

[gixxerboy1]

i would start the gh right away. gh is a long process you need to use for 6 months min.

[UsKidsKnow]

yes I already started at the beginning of the cycle. My questions was if I should run the PCT at the end while I"m still running the GH but have stopped the Sust. Or should I wait until the GH is complete and then start the pct?

[gixxerboy1]

now start it after your sust.
The gh has no effect on pct

[UsKidsKnow]

Do you think I should be running more Sust per week? also, I'm nervous about running both orals simultaneously and was thinking of front-loading the dbol for weeks 1-4 then picking up with the anadrol in weeks 5-12.

[gixxerboy1]

i asked in your first post
what are your stats and goals.

[UsKidsKnow]

I posted above. I'm 31 years old, this is my second cycle. I'm 6-2 and 234. I'm about 20% body fat. I see some people recommend cutting to a lower bf% before starting another cycle, but I want to get one more in then really focus on cutting naturally through a very clean diet and cardio.

My goals are to add mass, but I'm also hoping to cut slightly which is why the addition of the GH.

[gixxerboy1]

gh isnt magic.
if your 20% i wouldnt run more and d-bol and anadrol. your asking for problems as it is with that cycle. I think its a bad idea.

[UsKidsKnow]

I'm sorry I don't understand your response. You're saying I shouldn't run more of what? Sust per week?

[gixxerboy1]

i wont run drol and d-bol at 20% bf. But if you are uping the sust is only going to make things worse. I really hope you are using an ai.

[binsser]

most would do 4-6ius a day mate thats massive lol and dangerous!

[UsKidsKnow]

Binsser, really? I've seen 15-20iu as the recommended daily dose in just about every article I've seen on various forums. I've been taking 100 micrograms which equals 10iu daily. I'm doing two days on, one day off.

[DanB]

Binsser, really? I've seen 15-20iu as the recommended daily dose in just about every article I've seen on various forums. I've been taking 100 micrograms which equals 10iu daily. I'm doing two days on, one day off.

How much water do you put into the vial and how much gh is in the vial

This is what determines how much your taking not the ticks on the syringe

And I highly doubt your taking 10 i.u because if you are and the gh is legit then you will be crippled with cts

[gixxerboy1]

Binsser, really? I've seen 15-20iu as the recommended daily dose in just about every article I've seen on various forums. I've been taking 100 micrograms which equals 10iu daily. I'm doing two days on, one day off.

no 100mcg does not equal 10 iu

100mcg isnt even 1 iu.

You have no idea how much you are taking.

Again tell us how much gh is each vial and how much water are you putting in

[UsKidsKnow]

I'll have to look at my notes tonight when I get home. I really really appreciate your help.

[DanB]

I'll have to look at my notes tonight when I get home. I really really appreciate your help.

It should say it on the box and or vial

I can't fathom how you can shell out for what you hope is gh and not know the most basic things about it

[binsser]

i use a slin pin and mine are in pens and my freind is a massive competeition body builder and he recommends no more than 6 a day for me so i do 4 its not side free , just becuase it isnt a steriod it can have some really bad effects.. for a start you cant take everything you hear on a forum as gosble you have to be educated study and the answers all come to light bud so youve bought 6 months worth of hgh at 10 ius a day **** me that must of cost you absolute thousands as in 10s of bud did you really just hand your man that much??

[UsKidsKnow]

Obviously I'm pretty ignorant on these facts. My source is a friend and I trust his advice with regards to these things. He's not a stranger or someone uneducated on the science of it. I definitely didn't spend thousands of dollars (eek!).

The pin I use is a slim pin that goes to 10 on the dial. i was told not to go above "1" on the pin ever. I have written in my notes exactly how much liquid to add to the growth vial.

[DanB]

Obviously I'm pretty ignorant on these facts. My source is a friend and I trust his advice with regards to these things. He's not a stranger or someone uneducated on the science of it. I definitely didn't spend thousands of dollars (eek!).

The pin I use is a slim pin that goes to 10 on the dial. i was told not to go above "1" on the pin ever. I have written in my notes exactly how much liquid to add to the growth vial.

What brand of gh is it? And what does the vial contain

[binsser]

ok m8 just tell the boys what youve got there very knowledgable and will be able to sort you out m8 but seriously some people have done 4 week blasts of hgh at 10-20ius but it is dangerous and no-one wants you hurt bud were all doing this to be at the top of our game ur in good hands bud but need to tell us what you have m8!

[gixxerboy1]

how many vials came with your gh kit? What color are the tops? were there labels on them? were they in a plain white box?

[binsser]

its all differant 10 on a slim for me is 3ius

[UsKidsKnow]

I got two GH kits, each which came with 5 vials. The color of the top is green. They were in a plain white box and the vials were not labeled.

[binsser]

mmm thats not good is it ?????

[UsKidsKnow]

I'll post pictures when I get home tonight. Now I'm worried!

[DanB]

I got two GH kits, each which came with 5 vials. The color of the top is green. They were in a plain white box and the vials were not labeled.

Could be anything, I doubt its gh though mate

I can get a vial, stick on a green top and stick in some ghrp (if your lucky) call it gh and sell it

There only one supplier who I would use who sells without labels and this ain't him so ...........

[binsser]

pens are the best to get to be honest m8 i know you dont want to hear this now but it doesnt look very good bud!

[binsser]

The old con was hcg =
mix some up
put in syringe
spray on pregnacy test
if positve youve been done m8

you could try that!

[gixxerboy1]

The old con was hcg =
mix some up
put in syringe
spray on pregnacy test
if positve youve been done m8

you could try that!

Thats very old. Most use peptides or diuretics and stims now so they will produce some kind of result and fake people out

[gixxerboy1]

I'll post pictures when I get home tonight. Now I'm worried!

sounds like you should be. Doesnt sound like gh to me and sounds like the sold you 1 kit calling it 2. I would say you got screwed

[binsser]

is there anyway that you can get a test for real hgh or a blood test heard its really hard!??

[DanB]

You can test igf and gh serum

Not 100% but as good as you are going to get unless you have access to a mass spectromoter

[binsser]

just put in for one theyll contact me tommorrow ill do one now and one after pct make sure everythings ok ill get igf and gh serum done too might as well!

[DanB]

just put in for one theyll contact me tommorrow ill do one now and one after pct make sure everythings ok ill get igf and gh serum done too might as well!

Are you on nhs?

Might find it difficult to get the doc send you for it unless you pay out your own pocket......

[binsser]

yeah on nhs but doctors a family one so i just just tell her im doing a cycle and chest was abit heavy yesterday and she put me straight in for one with a full print out lolol except this time ill tell her im on hgh and see if she ll give me some for free(yeah right) lololol

[hankdiesel]

I want to know how many iu's are in each vial. It sounds like you only have ten vials. A "kit" is typically 100ius.