T3 timing questions?

**slimshady01** · 06-05-2012, 08:35 PM

Fast question I see so many different opinions.

T3 in the morning or night?

On a empty stomach or with food or does it not matter?

Dose no higher then 50mcg if needed info.

**songdog** · 06-05-2012, 08:49 PM

I take mine at nite and I never take anything on a empty gut.

**austinite** · 06-05-2012, 08:53 PM

I do the opposite of songdog. I take mine in the morning on an empty stomach.

**songdog** · 06-05-2012, 08:55 PM

I dont do the empty stomach thing beacuse somethings dont set well in my gut.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 06-05-2012, 09:40 PM

T3 at times can cause lethargy and sluggishness in some people, Just don't take it prior to working out and I think you will be ok.

**slimshady01** · 06-06-2012, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by johnnnyblazzze

T3 at times can cause lethargy and sluggishness in some people, Just don't take it prior to working out and I think you will be ok.

thanks for the replys,

its funny you mentioned this. I tried it on an empty stomach this morning and feel like i just took a sleeping pill i cant move lol.

i always seem tired anyway but this is worse!

**songdog** · 06-06-2012, 03:34 PM

Live and learn at leat you didnt get sick.

***D7M*** · 06-06-2012, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by johnnnyblazzze

T3 at times can cause lethargy and sluggishness in some people, Just don't take it prior to working out and I think you will be ok.

Yep, T3 does that to me. Paradoxical reaction. Most users get more energy.

Anyway, dose timing doesn't matter.

T3 has a 2.5 day half life.

Without or without food is preference depending, like sondog said, on one's gut sensitivity.

**Brohim** · 06-06-2012, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by slimshady01

thanks for the replys,

its funny you mentioned this. I tried it on an empty stomach this morning and feel like i just took a sleeping pill i cant move lol.

i always seem tired anyway but this is worse!

Try it at night then?

**human project** · 06-07-2012, 10:23 AM

How much t3 are you currently taking per day? Do you take it daily or are you running a specific t3 protocol such as the peak and taper method?

**magic32** · 06-07-2012, 02:47 PM

These are very subjective questions, hence the expected range of diversity...

Originally Posted by slimshady01

Fast question I see so many different opinions.

T3 in the morning or night?
It doesn't matter, personal preference and whether or not you incur sides are the determinants here.

On a empty stomach or with food or does it not matter?
Same answer. It may or may not wreck havoc with your stomach.

Dose no higher then 50mcg if needed info.
Depends on your level of courage and time requirements, but objectively speaking 50-75 mcg/ed is more than safe, venturing past that invites risks...but it's done.

**oscarjones** · 06-07-2012, 04:15 PM

T3 can cause sluggishness because in order for T3 to be absorbed it requires Cortisol, and it doesn't surprise me that someone like Phate has this because his adrenals are probably shot from overloading on Caffeine. If you have poor adrenal function, or too high or too low ferretin absorption percentages then most likely T3 isn't doing its job properly.

Also, if you have high levels of Reverse T3, it will interfere with the ability of T3 to bind and be utilized by the body. As far as ingestion goes, I would say don't. Honestly, it's probably best to take T3 sublingually in order to prevent any absorption issues with other foods, or fillers that may be in the medication, such as cellulose.

Note: Try splitting the dose throughout the day, every 4 hours or so would be good. Try 25mcg split in two, or 12.5mcg split into 4 hour intervals, and ramp it up as you go to find where you feel its achieving the desired results.

**slimshady01** · 06-08-2012, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by human project

How much t3 are you currently taking per day? Do you take it daily or are you running a specific t3 protocol such as the peak and taper method?

I normally just go a straight 37.5mcg a day through cycle and taper off. I'm trying 50mcg now for the first time for just a few weeks then will go back. I don't like going up to 75-100 like some. I like going lower and longer.

**slimshady01** · 06-08-2012, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by oscarjones

T3 can cause sluggishness because in order for T3 to be absorbed it requires Cortisol, and it doesn't surprise me that someone like Phate has this because his adrenals are probably shot from overloading on Caffeine. If you have poor adrenal function, or too high or too low ferretin absorption percentages then most likely T3 isn't doing its job properly.

Also, if you have high levels of Reverse T3, it will interfere with the ability of T3 to bind and be utilized by the body. As far as ingestion goes, I would say don't. Honestly, it's probably best to take T3 sublingually in order to prevent any absorption issues with other foods, or fillers that may be in the medication, such as cellulose.

Note: Try splitting the dose throughout the day, every 4 hours or so would be good. Try 25mcg split in two, or 12.5mcg split into 4 hour intervals, and ramp it up as you go to find where you feel its achieving the desired results.

Hmm that's a interesting post. My adrenals are prolly smoked from all the caffeine I have as well.

**Brohim** · 06-08-2012, 06:04 PM

Use Pregenolone to boost Cortisol and restore Adrenal Function.

**slimshady01** · 06-08-2012, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Brohim

Use Pregenolone to boost Cortisol and restore Adrenal Function.

how much would you take and doesnt cortisol have its own nasty things we want to stay away from while cutting.

**oscarjones** · 06-08-2012, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by slimshady01

how much would you take and doesn't cortisol have its own nasty things we want to stay away from while cutting.

On the contrary, cortisol is a very important hormone. As far cortisols effects on muscle catabolism, that's over-hyped. Don't worry about it. Besides, when supplementing with T3, it's very possible you won't have enough cortisol as previously mentioned.

Try taking 50mg of pregnenolone twice per day. Also, before supplementing you could have your progestrone and prolactin levels tested through blood work, and do a temperature test before supplementing with T3, during supplementation, and after. Adrenal recovery can be very tricky, so it's best to get that sorted before even taking T3, in my opinion. Also, if ferretin absorption isn't at an ideal, 35-45% then it can also render the utilization of T3 inefficient. Best not to even mess with thyroid and just man up and do cardio, unless you have an existing hypo disorder or wasting thyroid.

**human project** · 06-08-2012, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Brohim

Use Pregenolone to boost Cortisol and restore Adrenal Function.

Why would you want to raise cortisol?

**oscarjones** · 06-08-2012, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by human project

Why would you want to raise cortisol?

You wouldn't for any other reason then to help adrenal apathy, cortisol is needed for T3 utilization. So if the goal is to utilize T3, then you first need to heal the Adrenal glands.

**human project** · 06-09-2012, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by oscarjones

You wouldn't for any other reason then to help adrenal apathy, cortisol is needed for T3 utilization. So if the goal is to utilize T3, then you first need to heal the Adrenal glands.

Sorry I don't quite understand. Wouldn't it be a good thing if your adrenal glands stopped producing cortisol? That's the only reason why i take clen in my pct. Also I take around a gram caffeine a day; could this be affecting my adrenal gland. The reason why I ask is because clen use to take 5% of bf off me in a couple weeks without even changing diet; now a days I can't seem to loose more then 1-1.5% every week to two weeks even. I figured it was due to down regulation of the beta three receptor and have been taking benydryll every night and just ordered some keto. I also regularly take off clen but doesn't seem to work as well as it use to

**oscarjones** · 06-09-2012, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by human project

Sorry I don't quite understand. Wouldn't it be a good thing if your adrenal glands stopped producing cortisol? That's the only reason why i take clen in my pct. Also I take around a gram caffeine a day; could this be affecting my adrenal gland. The reason why I ask is because clen use to take 5% of bf off me in a couple weeks without even changing diet; now a days I can't seem to loose more then 1-1.5% every week to two weeks even. I figured it was due to down regulation of the beta three receptor and have been taking benydryll every night and just ordered some keto. I also regularly take off clen but doesn't seem to work as well as it use to

Please explain to me why you think this? Cortisol isn't the devil bodybuilders make it out to be, in fact, it's a very necessary and important hormone! Having too much or too little cortisol isn't healthy, just like having too much or too little testosterone , estrogen, prolactin, etc. Some of the beneficial things cortisol is responsible for during times of stress are glucose management through insulin release, blood pressure and immune function.

There are many sides to having prolonged levels of high cortisol, muscle decrease being one (the only one bodybuilders seem to care about), and one can utilize stress controlling techniques to combat this, or supplementing with things like MSM and Vitamin C (upwards of 3g post workout), however, complete discontinuation of production can be devastating for too many factors to mention.

**oscarjones** · 06-09-2012, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by oscarjones

You wouldn't for any other reason then to help adrenal apathy, cortisol is needed for T3 utilization. So if the goal is to utilize T3, then you first need to heal the Adrenal glands.

This post-post was directed towards those who suffer from Adrenal apathy, meaning their adrenal cortex doesn't function properly due to a variety of reasons (high stress environment, or stimulant abuse, and combination of the two being most common), and the relationship between abnormally decreased cortisol production and the utilization of T3.