anavar and winstrol

**bigdadda** · 06-06-2012, 07:23 AM

Hello all, I'm looking for some help. I am in the process of doing a two oral cycle for the first time in many years (10+) of doing steroids . I already have 300 10mg of anavar and 100 10 mg of winstrol . I have read that doing two orals at the same time is bad all together. I don't have any one to Hit me with an injectable so that is not an option. What would be the best course of action I could take to maximize the use of the two and keep my side affects to a minimum. I know anavar really isn't that bad, but the winstrol is. what would be the best dosages I should take daily and for how long? Also should I do one for 4-6 weeks and then jump over to the other for 4-6 weeks. or keep both of the winstol and anavar dosages low for the 8-12 weeks. I will be taking liv 52 and a joint supplement for the duration of the cycle.

I'm 205 lbs, 6'0" at age 42 and about 20% bf. I also do more cardio, then weights and I don't lift heavy. I'm just looking to lean up and drop some BF.

Thank you in advance for your help.

**marcus300** · 06-06-2012, 07:25 AM

Don't run two orals together and get your bf down to at least 14% before cycling.

**austinite** · 06-06-2012, 07:30 AM

Agree with marcus, but why would you need anyone to inject you. When you're ready you need to do it yourself. Counting on someone else to be there at the right moment is a bad idea.

**bigdadda** · 06-06-2012, 07:37 AM

Thank you both, another reason I wont inject is because I don't want to rely on anyone and I wont inject my self. I'm just looking to keep this simple. I already have the two and already know they are bad. I'm just looking for the best way to do them. opting out is not an option either. I really don't know what my Bf is, I used 20% as a reference I am probably around 15-17%. I do a lot of running and high reps with low weight.

**austinite** · 06-06-2012, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by bigdadda

Thank you both, another reason I wont inject is because I don't want to rely on anyone and I wont inject my self. I'm just looking to keep this simple. I already have the two and already know they are bad. I'm just looking for the best way to do them. opting out is not an option either. I really don't know what my Bf is, I used 20% as a reference I am probably around 15-17%. I do a lot of running and high reps with low weight.

Even with a single oral, you still need Test. Some think that TRT is enough, it is not. There really isnt a short cut or way around it. Var is expensive and would be a waste if not used properly with Diet and Test.

Good luck. Now man up and pin.

**dbolpr** · 06-06-2012, 07:45 AM

never do two orals like these together it'll mess up your liver..

**marcus300** · 06-06-2012, 07:45 AM

Don't run two orals,
Drop your bf to under 14%
You really need to think about taking steriods if you can't inject yourself.

**bigdadda** · 06-06-2012, 10:34 AM

what test would you recommend and how would you use the var and win with that test?

**marcus300** · 06-06-2012, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by bigdadda

what test would you recommend and how would you use the var and win with that test?

I wouldn't run two orals even with test, stick with one plus test.

**bigdadda** · 06-08-2012, 08:02 AM

I know I'm asking for help so I don't want to be rude, but nobody has answered my questions. I know you wouldn't take two orals at the same time, I already read up on that before I posted here. I never asked if I should take two orals Only how I should take them in the best way possible. I already bought them. Also What test would you recommend even if you feel Its just one oral. I'm looking for a test that is a once a week Hit and no more. what dosages should I take and can I take one oral for 4 weeks and the other for 4 weeks. I am very flexible can scale down if necessary. I'm going to take them regardless so if you had a gun to your head and needed to take Two orals at the same time, what would your best solution be in this situation. I'm not taking my BF down to 14% and I know I'm stupid for doing two orals but if you can help me minimize my stupidity I would greatly appreciate it. thanks for you response.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-08-2012, 08:24 AM

^^^ your 42, make a mature decision. 2 orals even going 4 weeks on 1 and 4 weeks on another isnt good. Also you are new to steroids . So running 3 different drugs you have never taken before isnt a good idea. What if you start to get a reaction? also add in the ai thats 4 new drugs you are on.
Just because you have them doesnt mean you need to use them now. They dont go bad.

**sgt2jay** · 06-08-2012, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by bigdadda

I know I'm asking for help so I don't want to be rude, but nobody has answered my questions. I know you wouldn't take two orals at the same time, I already read up on that before I posted here. I never asked if I should take two orals Only how I should take them in the best way possible. .

the best way was answered which is not to do it. sometime the best way to do something is not to do it.

i know not the answer you want.

**bigdadda** · 06-08-2012, 09:58 AM

Thanks, but is there really big difference whether I stay on one oral for 8 weeks or one for 4 weeks and the other for 4 weeks. also when I was younger I did my fair share of steroids and I don't get any reactions from them. Its just been awhile since I have read up on them and I figured I would save some time posting and asking people who are on top on it today.

**bigdadda** · 06-08-2012, 10:07 AM

I also found this on another site. Im not interested in doing a test every other day. so I have a problem with this one.

A stack of testosterone propionate , Winstrol and Anavar is one that leads to competition level muscle mass and quality. This makes use of daily intakes of Anavar at 25 mg, and administration of Winstrol and testosterone propionate every 2 days at 50 mg each.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-08-2012, 10:12 AM

thats a crap cycle for a few reasons. Just because some one wrote it doesnt mean its good.

**bigdadda** · 06-08-2012, 10:14 AM

an actual steroid site wrote that not somebody.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-08-2012, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by bigdadda

an actual steroid site wrote that not somebody.

and who do you think wrote it for the site? There is some stuff on our main board that is out dated or wrong also. it happens.

**bigdadda** · 06-08-2012, 10:20 AM

True, but my problem is I don't know what is wrong with that cycle that's why im posting here hoping some one will help me with my questions. Like is there really a difference between one oral for 8 weeks or 2 orals at 4 weeks each. I thought this would be easier. Ill find another forum and ask. hope I didn't bother anyone too much. I do appreciate everyone's time.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-08-2012, 10:24 AM

8 weeks on an oral isnt good. Why cant you just use 1?
the problem with that cycle is the prop dose is pretty much a trt dose. So you are shutting yourself down to replace it with an injectable 25mgs a var is usless the normal dose is 60-100mg a day.
That cycle is "to get you look like a competitive level" ?
its pretty much a low dose oral cycle.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-08-2012, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by bigdadda

True, but my problem is I don't know what is wrong with that cycle that's why im posting here hoping some one will help me with my questions. Like is there really a difference between one oral for 8 weeks or 2 orals at 4 weeks each. I thought this would be easier. Ill find another forum and ask. hope I didn't bother anyone too much. I do appreciate everyone's time.

you have had members who some are the most knowledgeable out there tell you its not good.
So your going to go to another board just to get an answer you want to hear? So some newb on another board who know very little will respond with a recommendation and since it will be an answer you want you will follow it?
I'm very surprised by this especially at your age. Sounds like something an young kid would do

**MikeZ91** · 06-08-2012, 10:36 AM

I'm going to be the one to say it cuz I'm sure others are thinking it.. I think this dude is a fake... Made an account claiming he is 42 looking for answers

**bigdadda** · 06-08-2012, 11:13 AM

not a fake and still didn't answer my questions thanks guys

**gixxerboy1** · 06-08-2012, 11:21 AM

your question has been answered multiple times.
You just dont like the answer

**songdog** · 06-08-2012, 04:29 PM

Dam bro wat dont you understand? You got 2 members here Marcus and Gixx who are 2nd to none.They are telling you not to run this and why.Wat part dont you understand? I will tell you wat you go run this cycle and when you have problems with your dick and maybe your liver.Go talk to those kids on that other site to fix you.