T3 worth it?

**leather daddy** · 06-07-2012, 03:58 AM

Anyone have personal experience with T3? how do u feel on it? i understand it can permenatly damage your thyroid if abused. Just wondering. also heard u need to run it with aas as it chews thru pretty much anything. Was curious about it. Any feedback on it?

**magic32** · 06-07-2012, 08:28 AM

Have you read the profile yet? If not...http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...9#.T9C3jYHenIU

Originally Posted by leather daddy

Anyone have personal experience with T3?
Yes.

how do u feel on it?
It doesn't really have a feel. Some people feel warmer, similar to Clen, but that's rare. It so often lacks a side effect that actually the best way to know your T3 is real is to take a few pre-administration morning temp readings; there should be a slight increase during admin.

i understand it can permenatly damage your thyroid if abused.
I 'think' this is largely a horror story. I haven't seen hard evidence to support it, and the profile actually cites (see references) a few studies of extended usage at varying dosages, and their very short return to baseline timeframes. T3 (Synthroid, a.k.a. Levothyroxine) is used to treat both hypo-and hyper-thyroid conditions, modest (note the preceding word) usage should be no problem. Dosages vary, but I err on the side of caution usually between 50 and 75 mcg, slowly ramping both up and down

Just wondering. also heard u need to run it with aas as it chews thru pretty much anything. Was curious about it. Any feedback on it?

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 06-07-2012, 09:29 AM

As mentioned above you can pretty much find out everything you want if you read its profile on this site. I think it's profile here is one of the best written, I suggest you take a look if you have interest in T3(Cytomel .)

There is not much feeling as compared to Clen . Some users report signs of lethargy and sluggishness which I can relate because I get this feeling sometimes after taking T3. Sometimes I'll get really sleepy and starting yawning a lot, not wanting to do anything but lay around like a bum.

If you're not running any AAS with it I wouldn't take it above 50mcg, in fact, I wouldn't take it at all if you're not running it with AAS unless you are willing to sacrifice some LBM, especially with Clen. T3 doesn't just target fat and burns it, it just burns pretty much whatever it wants. It would benefit somebody most thrown into a cutting cycle and low to moderate dosages but ran solo I think would almost be counter-productive especially in a caloric deficit, granted you are cutting.

**Badluck33** · 06-07-2012, 09:52 AM

i've been on it for a week just to check my tolerance. Going to stack it with an AAS next week.

So far i'm tolerating it well. I've lost 5 lbs since being on it for a week. No lifting, just cardio and a very high protein intake to keep my muscle protected.

I dont feel any different on it. I haven't felt the irregular heart beats either. I did start at 25 ed to working up to 80 now. I wont do 100 until on AAS tho.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 06-07-2012, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Badluck33

i've been on it for a week just to check my tolerance. Going to stack it with an AAS next week.

So far i'm tolerating it well. I've lost 5 lbs since being on it for a week. No lifting, just cardio and a very high protein intake to keep my muscle protected.

I dont feel any different on it. I haven't felt the irregular heart beats either. I did start at 25 ed to working up to 80 now. I wont do 100 until on AAS tho.

If you're not lifting and only doing cardio then the 5lbs you lost probably includes some muscle. I would be careful.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-07-2012, 01:06 PM

why ask? You never follow the advice given to you anyway?

**Capebuffalo** · 06-07-2012, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

why ask? You never follow the advice given to you anyway?

Damn good point following his other post.

**songdog** · 06-07-2012, 01:22 PM

Amen on that.

**leather daddy** · 06-07-2012, 08:00 PM

hold on a minute, before we start another argument, were does it say i was going to use it? Im pretty sure my post at the top of this page say i was INTERISTED IN IT never did it say i was going to use it or not follow the advice given to me, ohh wait a minute where did it say i was after advice? feedback and advice are 2 different things. So before you start cramming words down my throat maybe in future think before you write yea?

**austinite** · 06-07-2012, 08:06 PM

I recently added var and t3 to my cycle. Tired as hell all day every day. But i'll take that over the crappy feeling clen gives me.

**Brohim** · 06-07-2012, 08:09 PM

I heard it makes you tired as well. Not interested in that!

**Sgt. Hartman** · 06-07-2012, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by leather daddy

hold on a minute, before we start another argument, were does it say i was going to use it? Im pretty sure my post at the top of this page say i was INTERISTED IN IT never did it say i was going to use it or not follow the advice given to me, ohh wait a minute where did it say i was after advice? feedback and advice are 2 different things. So before you start cramming words down my throat maybe in future think before you write yea?

Kind of like when you said you were INTERESTED in running tren without a sufficient pct and time off after you first cycle?

**leather daddy** · 06-07-2012, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman

Kind of like when you said you were INTERESTED in running tren without a sufficient pct and time off after you first cycle?

the point of this thread was i DONT plan on running T3 atm if at all i was just interisted in at. That was all. So before people start crammiing shit down my throat wouldnt have just been easier to ask me if i was planning on running it? or better yet i would have put in the title i was planning on running it!

**oscarjones** · 06-07-2012, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by leather daddy

the point of this thread was i DONT plan on running T3 atm if at all i was just interisted in at. That was all. So before people start crammiing shit down my throat wouldnt have just been easier to ask me if i was planning on running it? or better yet i would have put in the title i was planning on running it!

Divide the T3 evenly throughout the day, as to prevent cortisol deprivation (which would indirectly lead to feeling sluggish). Also, you can add in some T4 to help with storage that will assist with the ups and downs.

**Brohim** · 06-07-2012, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by oscarjones

Divide the T3 evenly throughout the day, as to prevent cortisol deprivation (which would indirectly lead to feeling sluggish). Also, you can add in some T4 to help with storage that will assist with the ups and downs.

Would taking Pregenelone help boost cortisol?

**austinite** · 06-07-2012, 08:40 PM

Pregnenelone and Rhodiola daily is a must for me. and 125,000 iu D5000 per week. (50k monday and thursday) 5k other days.

**Brohim** · 06-07-2012, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Pregnenelone and Rhodiola daily is a must for me. and 125,000 iu D5000 per week. (50k monday and thursday) 5k other days.

how much t3 do you take? have you tried splitting doses to combat lethargy?

**austinite** · 06-07-2012, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Brohim

how much t3 do you take? have you tried splitting doses to combat lethargy?

50mcg ED, I don't believe in splitting T3 dosage.

**Brohim** · 06-07-2012, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

50mcg ED, I don't believe in splitting T3 dosage.

Why do you hold such beliefs? Did you try splitting before or take it all before bed?

**austinite** · 06-07-2012, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Brohim

Why do you hold such beliefs? Did you try splitting before or take it all before bed?

Yes. twice a day, 3 times. No difference what so ever. Either way it's going to build up. Did this on a cut a couple years ago.

**leather daddy** · 06-07-2012, 08:55 PM

wont be using T3, dont wanna risk losing muscle

**Brohim** · 06-07-2012, 09:00 PM

I got muscle to spare

**Brohim** · 06-07-2012, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Yes. twice a day, 3 times. No difference what so ever. Either way it's going to build up. Did this on a cut a couple years ago.

You try pharma grade T3?

**leather daddy** · 06-07-2012, 09:03 PM

how much muscle would u lose realistically if your protein was high, on tren , test p and test c. and clen as opposed to fat. hard to explain but on those substances what would the muscle to fat ratio be? would it be worth it. EVEN eating around maintenance?

**austinite** · 06-07-2012, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by leather daddy

how much muscle would u lose realistically if your protein was high, on tren, test p and test c. and clen as opposed to fat. hard to explain but on those substances what would the muscle to fat ratio be? would it be worth it. EVEN eating around maintenance?

Zero.

**leather daddy** · 06-07-2012, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Zero.

zero what? u would lose zero muscle. or zero fat coz ur eating at maintenance?

**austinite** · 06-07-2012, 09:16 PM

zero muscle.

**oscarjones** · 06-07-2012, 09:19 PM

It depends how much T3 you're dosing. Generally 50mcg is on the moderate scale of things. Some find splitting the dose more efficient and keep you feeling great throughout the day. Remember T3 "uses up" cortisol, and therefore if you have any type of adrenal fatigue, you're body might not be able to reproduce enough cortils, thus the disparity between adrenaline and cortisol could leave you wrecked, as well as your body not being able to utilize all the T3 dosed in a single setting. If you're taking anywhere upwards of 75-100mcg per day I'd recommend splitting the dose for best results.

**leather daddy** · 06-07-2012, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

zero muscle.

hmmm is T3 actually that good of a fat burner? say realistically someone at 16-17 percent bodyfat, even tho shouldnt be using compounds, not refering to myself just using these numbers because there arent low but not extremely HIGH using all that gear plus clen at T3 how much is the T3 going to provide?

**leather daddy** · 06-07-2012, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by oscarjones

It depends how much T3 you're dosing. Generally 50mcg is on the moderate scale of things. Some find splitting the dose more efficient and keep you feeling great throughout the day. Remember T3 "uses up" cortisol, and therefore if you have any type of adrenal fatigue, you're body might not be able to reproduce enough cortils, thus the disparity between adrenaline and cortisol could leave you wrecked, as well as your body not being able to utilize all the T3 dosed in a single setting. If you're taking anywhere upwards of 75-100mcg per day I'd recommend splitting the dose for best results.

So you wont really feel much on T3?

**The Titan99** · 06-07-2012, 09:29 PM

I guess I must be a masochist because I KNOW I'm going to be wasting minutes of my life and numerous brain cells every time I open a thread started by this clown. In three months he's actually posted 666 times and I defy anyone to point out out one useful statement or one sensical, well thought out question.

**oscarjones** · 06-07-2012, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by leather daddy

So you wont really feel much on T3?

Most don't experience sides of T3 like they would, say clenbuterol , or ephedrine.

It plays an important role in the body and should be treated with respect. If you take the advice from most "bodybuilders" or athletes, who use the drug as a performance enhancer, take it with a a grain of salt. T3s effect on intermediate metabolism and metabolic rate/heat production is pretty straight forward, and its the cascade of other chemical reactions, with the alteration of T3, that harbors ignorance and abuse. You can burn out your thyroid, just like you can wreck your HPT axis.

**leather daddy** · 06-07-2012, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by oscarjones

Most don't experience sides of T3 like they would, say clenbuterol , or ephedrine.

It plays an important role in the body and should be treated with respect. If you take the advice from most "bodybuilders" or athletes, who use the drug as a performance enhancer, take it with a a grain of salt. T3s effect on intermediate metabolism and metabolic rate/heat production is pretty straight forward, and its the cascade of other chemical reactions, with the alteration of T3, that harbors ignorance and abuse. You can burn out your thyroid, just like you can wreck your HPT axis.

thanks for the info bro realy appreciate it