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    Theshaolin1 is offline New Member
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    First cycle Please read and advise

    Hey Everyone

    Been lurking in the shadows for a while trying to pick up as much info as possible.
    Me:
    28 5 "11 200pds 12-15% body fat guessing closer to 15%
    Been muay thai kickboxing for 15 years, mma 8 years, weight lifting on and off 10 years
    Current work out routine 3x a week weights 3 days a week cardio
    Current diet is fairly clean sample of today's
    1st meal
    6 egg whites 1 handful of spinach
    snack
    banana
    2nd meal 6" subway turkey bacon avocado no cheese no mayo
    snack muscle milk light and handful of mixed nuts
    post workout
    45g whey protein shake
    meal 3 chicken breast broccli and coos coos
    snack muscle milk light

    Never done any AAS ever period

    Went to Anti Aging doc 2 weeks ago looking to get hgh for fat loss help
    Got blood results yesterday can provide more stats if needed heres the stuff he went over with me theres lots more on the lab though

    Free test 6.55
    test 399 doc says low
    chol 198
    trig 182 high
    hdld 29
    ldld 159
    vldlc 36 high
    hdl 6.9 high
    t4 1.04
    t3 5.5 high confirmed test dont know wich way the scale works since doc prescribed me t3
    igf1 204
    tsh 2.67
    cortisol 29.4 high

    So after the discussion the doc recommended not to take hgh but to take
    test 100mg per week
    nand 100mg per week
    hcg .33 cc 3 times a week
    t3 5mcg 1st 10 days 10 mcg 2nd 10 days 25mcg 3rd 10 days


    Did first injections there at the office with supervision being my first time.
    Didnt do as much research on aas as i did hgh
    After the gym spent lots of time reading aas forums and this cycle just doesnt seem like enough but he is a doc maybe safety and side effects please let me know
    The doc did say the test he gave me is a six month supply is that his way of saying i should use more than he prescribed

    Any help and knowledge is much appreciated let me know if any more info is necessary thanks

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    Sounds like your on on HRT for good now my man. Looks like he put you on maintinance, not a cycle. IDK anything about HRT or TRT. 100 mgs a week may make you feel better in the gym and throughout each day, and it may even give you an edge as far a building muscle + burning fat, but you're not going to see drastic gains that you would with running an "average dose" of Test. I doubt he was telling you to use more than prescribed on your own. What are your goals of doing this? Just fat loss? You should be good at that dose if burning fat is your only intent. I'd even say drop the Nand (nandralone right?), but I aint a doctor. My 2 cents.

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    i suggest you get a second opinion.

    if you're asymptomatic, there's no need to start TRT at this test level. its going to be permanent, and your natty test will go to crap forever.

    see an endocrinologist this time.

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    Lurking in the shadows....sounds sinister to me.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you went to a clinic? First, I believe you posted this in the TRT forum also which is the correct place for it btw. Second, you need to edit the post (trt forum be best place) and add ranges to it for a better evaluation. Right off the bat your thyroid need help. TSH should not be over 2. Modern range is 0.3 - 3.0 and T3 high also. Hypothyroid will give the same symptoms as low T and this avenue should have been attacked first, prior to initiating TRT. Would also be good to see your E2 sensitive assay as well as shbg.

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    hey guys i am in need of help. i m 34 and attempted my first cycle of deca 250 and testogel 250 every week for 10 weeks. i m in my third week and i already started having sensitive nipples and my right side felt kind of sore this morning so i m assuming these are the first initial indications of gyno. I already have nolva and ordered some liquidex and letro today and so i should get it within couple of days but what would you guys suggest as far as preventing myself from getting gyno. Should i start taking nolva during or wait for the other two and take A.I or letro during and keep nolva for pct? I also read in some other forums that running nolva wasn't recommended during deca cycle but at this point I m not sure who has more knowledge than others. My questions would be Am i taking the right amount of deca and test? Do i need to worry about my sensitiveness now of is it normal in the early stages of cycle? Please advice. Thanks in advance for your helps...

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