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[shadymcgrady]

Tren 100 Mg ed, 12-24
Proviron 100 Mg Ed, 6-24
Test 400 eod, 1-24
Deca 750 Mg weekly, 1-24
Dbol 50 Mg Ed, 18-24
Anadrol 100 Mg, 10-16
t3 25 Mcg Ed, 6-24

The numbers on the right represent Weeks.

Stats
5th cycle
28 years old
230 lbs
10% bf
Lifting for 4 years.

pct- cruise test.

[austinite]

Horrible cycle.

230 and 10% BF?? How tall are you?

Too many compounds. Tren for 12 weeks? No thanks. Ugh. Too much to list. I'll let others chime in.

Good luck.

[shadymcgrady]

Wow Tren for 12 Weeks

[shadymcgrady]

Not in this for health

[austinite]

Not in this for health

Then you're in the wrong place.

[DanB]

Op can you tell me your height and cycle history?

And you do realise there is every chance you won't recover from this cycle? Just making sure you know the risks......

[shadymcgrady]

Right......
Long Esters in my particular case need to be ran for a minimum of 16 Weeks I do not experience gains until the third month.

[shadymcgrady]

Dan it is in the post

[shadymcgrady]

And yes I do but I am okay with being on gear for the rest of my life.

[shadymcgrady]

5, 10 is my height

[shadymcgrady]

Gonna run right into contest prep cycle after this

[DanB]

Tren 100 Mg ed, 12-24 Watch for BP
Proviron 100 Mg Ed, 6-24 I have no experience with this compound but cant forsee a problem using it
Test 400 eod, 1-24
Deca 750 Mg weekly, 1-24 I dont think 2 19nors at same time is necessary, tren would be my preference here, have you considered NPP first 12 weeks and tren final 12?
Dbol 50 Mg Ed, 18-24 I'd kickstart with this
Anadrol 100 Mg, 10-16 If you like but my own choice would be var or tbol at 100mg or both, I dislike the sides from drol, more bloat then anything else, but if you using it for strenght then I can see your logic
t3 25 Mcg Ed, 6-24 This is roughly what your body produces naturally so the dose is pointless, you shut down natty production just to replace with same amount, 50mcg minimum, I have ran as high as 125mcg with no problems

The numbers on the right represent Weeks.

SEE BOLD

Stats
5th cycle
28 years old
230 lbs
10% bf
Lifting for 4 years.

pct- cruise test.

I strongly suggest you use an a.i as you will almost certainly encounter problems with both estrogen and progesterone, I would use either armidex or aromasin at .5mg day or 12.5mg ed and increase if necessary and I'd say you will feel the need to increase.........

Here is some good info on the above topic

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.T9GWK1JvCSp

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...a#.T9GWVVJvCSp

[DanB]

Although I feel your blast is too long in general and should at least have some sort of a deload halfway through to allow the myostatin buildup etc to disperse, I dont know if you will entertain that idea?

[Deeez]

Sorry to chime in but are u saying he may not recover because of the compounds or the length of the cycle, trying to learn as much as possible

[DanB]

Sorry to chime in but are u saying he may not recover because of the compounds or the length of the cycle, trying to learn as much as possible

Both

19nors are notoriously hard to recover from, they can cause progesterone/prolactin which inhibit LH and in turn stops test production and generally the longer the cycle means the longer your LH and FSH is shut down, (the use of HCG will stimulate LH, HMG for FSH) then the harder it will be for it to recover

But since the OP isnt planning on coming off then this isnt a concern for him

[SwellingUp]

I agree with Austinite this is a horrible cycle but the advice and tweaks DanB suggest are right on. Your duration is too long and dosages are pretty high too but I suspect that with the cycle you posted you probably burnt out some receptors already the way it sounds like you handle your gear. Just an opinion here but you should rely more on your diet than gear to get you where you feel right and you should look into bridging cycles. Bro you do need time for recovery and PCT I can't imagine being on gear for the rest of your life is gonna be too legit. learn to bridge with peptides and sarms.

[shadymcgrady]

If I could get npp I would
I'm bridging this cycle with eq and GH for one month then going straight into contest prep cycle

[DanB]

If I could get npp I would
I'm bridging this cycle with eq and GH for one month then going straight into contest prep cycle

Then I would use Deca 12-14wk and tren 8-10wk

I would also watch RBC and hematocrit, it is advisable to get BW done half way through and then again pre and post your contest prep

I see no need/use to bridge with eq either, personally I would just cruise on test for a few weeks

Start the GH asap, run the duration if you can afford it

[bob87]

post a pic of yourself you must be a big dude.... good luck with it all. definately going to be a harsh cycle

[shadymcgrady]

Taking Tren for two Weeks would be waste same with Deca for 4 Weeks for some reason I have to take long Esters for a min of 16 and short Esters for a min of ten. It takes a long time for me to get.gains it's odd.

[shadymcgrady]

Hoping to gain 20 pounds of lbm

[DanB]

i think that is optimistic for any cycle and especially this one since you are prop very close to, if not past your genetic max already, you will need serious cals what are your macros?

without a deload or some sort i suspect your gains will slow to a crawl

at this stage if I was you, I would be looking to see how I can fund high dose gh