My next cycle Sustanon 250 with Deca 250

**Loki387** · 06-09-2012, 10:14 PM

Haven't been on here in awhile been travelling heaps but Im back ahah

Anyways guys this is my 2nd cycle and got my hands on the Sustanon 250 and Deca 250 so Will be combining the 2 for 10-12 week cycle anyone done this combination before ? Thoughts ?

Stats:
Age 26
Height: 177
Weight 80KG

First Cycle: Was Tren and Prop.. EOD for 12 weeks, PCT was Clomid, Novla through out.
Stats from first cycle before:
Height 177, Weight 74KG, Post cycle: Height 177 Weight: 79.3KG

I have all my PCT on hand so heard good things about the Sus/Deca cycle any thoughts would be appreciated.

Peace.

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 06-09-2012, 10:23 PM

well, it might not compare to a cycle with tren , but should be pruductive. Are you doing 250 of each a wk or 500? if it were me id at least go 500 with the test but it might still be ok

**Loki387** · 06-09-2012, 10:26 PM

Well would like to be hitting 500g of SUS and 500 of Deca a week wouldnt that be ideal ??

I want maximum mass gain.

AD · 06-10-2012, 02:29 AM

Is your diet ok? If you only gained 5kg from a tren and test first cycle, i would be slightly disappointed. Care to post up your diet?

500 of sust AND deca for a second cycle seems excessive.

**Loki387** · 06-10-2012, 02:34 AM

my Diet is spot on, just unfortunately I got sick for 3 weeks during my first cycle, which played havoc in terms of my nutrition intake. I think i have already posted my diet in the nutrition section some time back only this time round the macros have increased. If not I'll have to post it later as not at home.

Why would you say its excessive ? whats your reasoning behind this ?

Cheers

AD · 06-10-2012, 02:48 AM

Most people like to recommend 500mg test only as a first cycle. Taking that as a reference, subsequent cycles may still be run again at 500, or increased slightly to 600.

If illness disrupted your first cycle, i would recommend you run the prop again at 100mg eod. You should still see gains from your current 80kg at 177cm.

But 500mg of test and deca together means 1g of aas a wk. Its really quite a high dose for a second cycle. You might get some serious sides. Its just not necessary if 350-400mg of prop will do the job.

**Loki387** · 06-10-2012, 03:05 AM

Have no more prop. Just have the Sus and deca on hand.

But might decrease the dosage down.... 350 mm sus and 250 deca.. for but ill pyramid it and see how we go.

AD · 06-10-2012, 03:14 AM

Ya. Definitely safer to start lower. With a good diet and no illness, you may not even feel the need to pyramid up if your gains are great. Good luck.

**Loki387** · 06-10-2012, 06:17 AM

Thanks for the info... any more is appreciated.

**songdog** · 06-10-2012, 06:26 AM

Not good to run tren on 1st cycle.So we can see you dont listen and running back to back 19nors isnt a great thing either.But you were asked to post your diet and refused.You dont do things things the right way so why ask for info.

**Loki387** · 06-10-2012, 09:19 PM

songdog. Think you need to read what I wrote.... I said I don't mind posting up the diet but I am not at "HOME" will be back locally in 2 days then I can copy paste etc.

The reasoning behind using Tren /Prop as a first cycle was strictly because it was on hand and I was doing it with friend who has run many similar cycles so i was being monitored to an extent unfortunately he is off in the army and can't contact him regarding this cycle lol

AD · 06-10-2012, 09:33 PM

have you read swifto's thread about "growing into your dose"? quite interesting. relatively conservative but backed with data and personal experience.