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    cutting cycle tren a, test p, anavar questions?

    First of im greatful for all your support all these years, goin on 5 yrs now. thanks to all

    Alrite, finally doing my cutting cycle:
    stats: 28, ht: 5' 8, 170 lbs, bf apprx 15%
    last cycle was a mass gain on tren a, test p (8 weeks): gained roughly 15 lbs, maintained most of it, lost 5 to 6 lbs

    wanna firm up now:
    my goal is to loose excess bf without loosing lbm, my waist is 34.5" id like to be 30" while being 170 lbs and be oak strong, so without further ado here is plan of attack :

    wk 1-7: tren a (75 mg eod), test p (100 mg eod) plus var (50 mg ed)

    i really wanna hit my goals, my question is ofcourse ill be eating very clean, do i need to be in cal deficit or will var take care of it via curbing appetite?

    i feel like this is going to be the best cycle i have ever done, im hoping my goals are modest. Another thing, i really cant afford it but do i need t3?

    Its been fun growing with u great fellas all these years. i hope y'all will b excited for me on this one as well

    cant wait to start!

    fire away bros
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    I think you can take the var to 60-70mg daily. might consider introducing T3 in there at 50iu ED. Water is your best friend. Reach a gallon daily, and make part of that liquid intake Green Tea. If you drink milk with your shakes, lose it and use water. You can probably stop var at week 5.

    A Smart Calorie deficit will certainly help. Don't count on Var to suppress appetite, everyone reacts differently to it.

    What's your cardio like?

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    ill b doing olympic style fast tempo lifting m, w, f with a combo of 30 mins interval cardio post lifting.

    tue, thu ill be doing high intensity 45 mins playos/cardio

    do i really need t3? can i just use oxylite instead ???

    Im hoping these 3 compunds combined with my intense regimen and perhaps a thermogenic like the one I mention above will b enough. I rather not use t3 unless its necessary
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    Posted twice ^
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    Quote Originally Posted by brnxbomers View Post
    ill b doing olympic style fast tempo lifting m, w, f with a combo of 30 mins interval cardio post lifting.

    tue, thu ill be doing high intensity 45 mins playos/cardio

    do i really need t3? can i just use oxylite instead ???
    Interesting. I'd love to follow a log if you decide to start one.

    T3 worked for me. Or... working for me since I am on it now. Do you REALLY need it? No. But it certainly took my progress to the next level.

    I think you are on the right track with or without T3, but from my experience, Oxy made me feel like crap. Like Clen, it ruined me. But I am not you, so you might do better with oxy.

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    While on t3 did u have to conciously create a caloric deficit or u can eat all you want as long as its clean? Btw how would I dose t3 into this cycle (mcg/day) and for how long, if I decide to include it. Keeping thyroids safety in mind ofcourse.

    Kindly enlighten me with safe t3 dosage instructions, id be very greatful
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    I would pin tren a everyday due to the short half life. And that's low doses of test and tren. Id say do 75mg ed tren a. 35mg ed test p and see how that goes. Up it if u can handle the sides. That's what I did

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    Seriously 35 mgs of test perday??? 75 mgs of tren ace is not low either, hope u read. Anyway

    I did that my last cycle ta(75mg/day), tp (100 mg/day), 7 days/week. I play baseball and the pain was hard to handle ed, plus im looking to use less this time around not bulking just maintaining and loosing excess, gaining perhaps 10 lbs of new lbm while loosing excess bf, especially midsection, ill take your advice into consideration

    Wont b upping, as my dosages are already set, thats all I can afford. But doing ed instead of eod will defintely help truncate the cycle length.

    Austinite, how bout that t3??? Waiting for your response good sir lol

    Fyi anyone is welcome to comment on my t3 question
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    I'm doing 1000mg tren a, 700mg test p and its not that painful. Get some gear with eo. It makes the pip much less

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    Well im good where im at. Like I said im an athlete not a bber. Looking to gain a little bit of new lbm, increase strength, endurance, drop bodyfat, thats all

    Besides I cant afford that much AAS, kudos to u though.

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    Someone help me out with t3 please. Where is everyone?? lol

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    You shouldn't need the t3 imo.

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    Mite as well. so, how do I dose it into my cycle. Do I need to watch my cals? Also ive never used t3 b4.

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    Anyone???

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    Quote Originally Posted by brnxbomers View Post
    Seriously 35 mgs of test perday??? 75 mgs of tren ace is not low either, hope u read. Anyway

    I did that my last cycle ta(75mg/day), tp (100 mg/day), 7 days/week. I play baseball and the pain was hard to handle ed, plus im looking to use less this time around not bulking just maintaining and loosing excess, gaining perhaps 10 lbs of new lbm while loosing excess bf, especially midsection, ill take your advice into consideration

    Wont b upping, as my dosages are already set, thats all I can afford. But doing ed instead of eod will defintely help truncate the cycle length.

    Austinite, how bout that t3??? Waiting for your response good sir lol

    Fyi anyone is welcome to comment on my t3 question
    Sorry. Too many distractions at home.

    T3 is safe between 50 to 75iu ED. Doesn't matter when you take it. Some folks like to split up the dose, I don't see a difference. It's going to build up either way. You most certainly should be at a calorie deficit but should keep protein high.

    Like stpete said, it's not really needed, so my advice is from my personal experience. That said, I would say 50 ED would suffice for you.

    If you respond well to Tren, your dose is fine. I didnt respond until 80mg ED, but again everyone is different.

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    So 50 mcg per day. How long should I use it for. Does it need to be tapered when comin off? Define responding well to tren?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brnxbomers View Post
    So 50 mcg per day. How long should I use it for. Does it need to be tapered when comin off? Define responding well to tren?
    Well you said you've done Tren on your last cycle. So I would assume that you know how you react to it. I saw no results from Tren at 50 mg ED. (didn't respond to it), when I tried at 80mg ED, I saw results (responded)

    4 to 6 weeks is fine. However, make sure you time it so that you are always on AAS so that you dont go catabolic.

    No tapering needed.

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    Ok here goes:
    Wk 1-7 : tren (75 mg, eod), test p (100 eod), anvar 50 mgs, per day plus t3 50 mgs wk 3 to 7

    Possibly injecting ed that would just cut the cycle shorter, do I need an appetite suppressor? Or these compound are goin to curb appetite automtically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brnxbomers View Post
    Ok here goes:
    Wk 1-7 : tren (75 mg, eod), test p (100 eod), anvar 50 mgs, per day plus t3 50 mgs wk 3 to 7

    Possibly injecting ed that would just cut the cycle shorter, do I need an appetite suppressor? Or these compound are goin to curb appetite automtically.
    You don't have to use the same dosage from EOD to ED, you could use half the dose and pin daily, you will benefit with more stable blood levels.

    No.

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    Gotcha u rather have me split 75 mgs on eod to ed yielding 35 mgs ed.

    Final question, Looking at my stats what can I expect? My final bodyweight, bf %. Would I be heavier and lower bf. Or stay same weight but lower bf.

    What should I expect results wise?

    Guess im asking about body comp changes. I know ill be gaining new lbm and dropping bf. Is that spot on? Thanks for all your info btw I really appreciate it
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    Quote Originally Posted by brnxbomers View Post
    Gotcha u rather have me split 75 mgs on eod to ed yielding 35 mgs ed.

    Final question, Looking at my stats what can I expect? My final bodyweight, bf %. Would I be heavier and lower bf. Or stay same weight but lower bf.

    What should I expect results wise?

    Guess im asking about body comp changes. Thanks for all your info btw I really appreciate it
    I cant really answer this. Like you said it's your body. For me, I dropped 2% BF and gained 11 lean (gained more, but 11 is what I kept). I can give you a realistic goal with proper diet and training, however. 178 LBS and 13% bf is doable. Keep in mind this is not a very long cycle. Learn to love cardio and the excess will melt off and you will love the mirror.

    Good luck and start a log. This will help you keep track of your progress and service other members as well.

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    I know u already stated this but are u 100 % about using t3 at 50 mcg per day and quit cold aftwards. I dont wanna mess up my thyroid.

    I have also read articles stating u should start at 25 mcg for days 1 to 3, then bump to 75...100 so on and taper back down to 25. Typical 21 day application to restore normal thyroid funtioning.

    Kindly also tell me how should I space my dosage and when should I start it

    Sorry for so many questions. Just trying to be careful

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