I need help with my first cycle

**slatts77** · 06-11-2012, 11:19 PM

Hi, I'm 18 years old 5'10 and 150 lbs, I'm trying my first cycle and I've decided to use Anadrol 50 I have the 50 tabs, I have trenbolone acetate 100mg/ ml and I'm planning on taking testosterone with it too. I am wondering what my doses should be and if that is an effective strategy to take those 3. I'm planning on going heavy for 2 months

**sharmabrah** · 06-11-2012, 11:23 PM

You are eighteen and you want to ruin your life already? If you are wanting to gain some serious mass then change your diet, get some good supplements and stick to heavy compounds in the gym. It's tempting to do it mate but trust me, it's not worth it yet.

**kif** · 06-11-2012, 11:25 PM

O boy, bro at 18 you shouldn't be running any cycles, im heading to bed its late here in NY. I bet a bunch of people tell you why it's a bad idea. It's best if you listen to them. All I have to say is Tren NO!!!!!!!!!! This is a great site welcome spend the next few whatever reading and learning. The guys around here are great.

**slatts77** · 06-11-2012, 11:28 PM

i know its not the best idea, i have thought about that, no offence but im not a complete idiot. I know the consequences and i know they are not a good idea, but i have made the decision to do this and i am just looking for the help to do it the best way

**austinite** · 06-11-2012, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by slatts77

i know its not the best idea, i have thought about that, no offence but im not a complete idiot. I know the consequences and i know they are not a good idea, but i have made the decision to do this and i am just looking for the help to do it the best way

So what are the consequences?

**slatts77** · 06-11-2012, 11:37 PM

I know that there can be damage to my liver, I read that there has been cases with tumors. I am asking for help, not someone to tell me it's wrong and dangerous

**kif** · 06-11-2012, 11:44 PM

Well if your set on running a cycle at your age, I'll give advice we give to people that are Ready to run a cycle. Run a Test only cycle for your first cycle. That way if you have any kind of reaction you know what is causing the reaction. I still say you should wait a few year before taking steroids !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¡

**austinite** · 06-11-2012, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by slatts77

I know that there can be damage to my liver, I read that there has been cases with tumors. I am asking for help, not someone to tell me it's wrong and dangerous

That's my point man, you're not educated enough. No one will give you advice here. You should use your time to fix your diet and training and we have tons of pro's in those forums that can help you get there. We just don't want to see you get hurt and giving you advice would be participating in damaging your body. It's safe to cycle at 25 years or older. Would you give a 12 year old advice on drugs that could hurt them? Doesn't sound very smart does it? That's what experienced folks feel like they're doing if they give you advice.

At your age you need to take advantage of your natural abilities. Your Test levels are still increasing naturally. Do you ever plan on dating anyone? I did exactly what you're trying to do. Cycled early and uneducated. Now for the rest of my life I have to visit a longevity clinic to be prescribed testosterone therapy . Even with the dosages they give me I still can't stay erect. I have to use other means for that. You know how depressing that is? Suicidal thoughts were VERY common in my late 20's. Most folks seek TRT at or above age 40. I had to do it at 31. Furthermore, I got hyper-pigmentation all over my upper arms and back. I can be at 7% body fat and bigger than life but guess what... I can't take my shirt off at the beach. You know how shitty that feels? I screwed myself. These are NOT the only issues I have and my issues are 100% caused by an uneducated, young juicer who made up his mind didn't give 2 sh1ts about tomorrow. Just wanted what I wanted today.

Don't do it. Just don't.

**slatts77** · 06-11-2012, 11:50 PM

Ive already set my mind on doing it. And I'm looking to get big and toned fast. Would the combination of those 3 I listed above not be a good idea?

**slatts77** · 06-12-2012, 12:07 AM

And I acknowledge those consequences but I was just hoping to do the 2 month cycle over summer and get bigger than I am now, gain enough wait and size and play my last year of football

**Aaryan** · 06-12-2012, 12:08 AM

Listen to the members. They wouldnt be saying all this unless it was true. They are just looking out for you. Thats what we do on these forums. U ask a question and members will give u feedback. If u are dead set on it then nobody can obviously stop you. It shows you have a lack of knowledge and u are going to do more harm than good. Just do some research. Whatever u decide i wish u luck

**austinite** · 06-12-2012, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by slatts77

And I acknowledge those consequences but I was just hoping to do the 2 month cycle over summer and get bigger than I am now, gain enough wait and size and play my last year of football

What if I told you that if you changed your diet and training, you will be much bigger in 2 months? Would that interest you?

**sharmabrah** · 06-12-2012, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

What if I told you that if you changed your diet and training, you will be much bigger in 2 months? Would that interest you?

It would interest me! I just need help though.

**Bevsta123** · 06-12-2012, 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by sharmabrah

It would interest me! I just need help though.

your clearly looking in the wrong part of the forum then. you should be making your way to the health and nutrition and possibly workout sections of this forum..

@OP you are a clear example of an ignorant idiot that cant take the advice given. Multiple people have told you not to but i bet the first person that says do it youll jump to their every command on what to do. People like you starting cycles at this age clearly not knowing all the consequences you think liver damage and possible tumours are an issue? What are you going to do if you were to get Gyno? Sever acne? Libido? Loss of hair? Youd be the first one back on the forums with 100s of threads begging us to help you. stop being so ignorant and fix your dieting then come back in a few years.

**thebrightestnight** · 06-12-2012, 04:09 AM

Yeah listen to their words of wisdom, bro. You can have steroid -like gains naturally by just changing your diet and workout plan. At eighteen you have plenty of testosterone already. Check out the diet forum and ask some of them guys what to do. Tren is one of the strongest steroids out there so everyone is going to tell you that a beginner shouldn't take Tren at all. I know because I used Tren Ace on my first cycle and all these guys said I was a complete dumbass (I was). Lucky me I didn't have any negative effects and had a great cycle. Not everyone is that lucky. My advice would be that if you're going to do anything, try some natural supplements or DAA. There are a lot of ways to boost your testosterone without having to result to anabolic steroids. Search the web and find some good supplements. Combined with a good workout plan and a proper diet, I promise you will have steroid-like results. If you do decide to take them (which you probably will) I would suggest the Test only for your first cycle. Everyone will tell you that also. Be sure to get your post cycle therapy in order. Go to Ebay or something and order some Nolvadex . Check out the pct forum also.

**John Andrew** · 06-12-2012, 04:14 AM

If you start using you are a complete idiot! Your body is full of hormones, you are growing. You will **** up everything forever!

Go ahead and kill yourself but don't expect help!

**slowpoison** · 06-12-2012, 04:30 AM

hey bud! all these ppl here are not noobs who will dissuade you off for their own pleasure! try and understand why.

**stpete** · 06-12-2012, 04:44 AM

Jumping the gun a bit OP. A good diet and training regimen is what you need. Taking advantage of those natural hormones. Hit the Nutrition and Workout Sections. Tons of great info and you will make gains if you listen, train and eat right.

Good Luck

**Honkey_Kong** · 06-12-2012, 04:58 AM

At 5'10 and 150lbs, you obviously either haven't been training for very long, you don't know how to train, you don't know how to diet or a combination of all of those.

There is a lot more at risk than just your liver too.

If you learned how to diet and train, over the next two years, you could easily put on 20lbs of muscle naturally. And that's being conservative. Ultimately though, it's your life and I really don't care if you fvck yourself up. Seriously though, even if you ran a cycle, you're not going to gain much nor are you going to keep any of it if you don't know how to eat and train. So you'd just be putting yourself in harms way for nothing.

Why don't you read some of the threads of all the other guys who "knew the consequences" and now are here begging people to help them out because they can't get their dicks up for their girlfriend anymore?

**slatts77** · 06-12-2012, 10:08 AM

you say sever acne and gyno is a worse consequence than a tumor and severe liver damage ..... yeah, not so much. I came for help here and no one can offer any so nevermind and thank you.