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    ron2203 is offline Junior Member
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    Advice needed

    Hi
    I am doing a 8 week cycle of test cyp/parabolan /anavar at 600 mg/ 225mg weekly and 30 mg anavar every day.

    My trainer said to take a shot of HCG in the 4th week.

    And later another shot of HCG after the cycle.

    Is this as a PCT enough? Is it ok to take HCG during a cycle?

    Please advice me as I am relatively new to this and with limited knowledge. Thanks a lot.

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    I don't see a PCT at all. For a proper PCT pick up some Nolva and Clomid. I would also get an AI to have on hand.

    HCG is used for testicular atrophy, It helps make PCT go smoother and recover faster but it cannot be used as PCT alone.

    Personally I would run the Test Cyp longer since around week 8 is when it will be in its prime and be most beneficial.

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    So much wrong with that cycle.

    Tell the guy who's giving out advice like that to f*ck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron2203 View Post
    Hi
    I am doing a 8 week cycle of test cyp/parabolan /anavar at 600 mg/ 225mg weekly and 30 mg anavar every day.

    My trainer said to take a shot of HCG in the 4th week.

    And later another shot of HCG after the cycle.

    Is this as a PCT enough? Is it ok to take HCG during a cycle?

    Please advice me as I am relatively new to this and with limited knowledge. Thanks a lot.
    Mate,
    welcome aboard. it is helpful if you were to update your stats in your profile, that way I don't have to ask everytime you ask for advice. So here we go. what are your stats?

    AGE
    height
    weight
    bodyfat%
    cycle experience
    years lifing in the gym intensely (this last time)
    knowledge of nutrition

    I will tell you that is a short cycle for test c. it is a long esther and begins kicking in around week 4.
    the var dose is too light to see any benefit

    answer the question i have about your stats and we can move forward

    Cheers
    ---Roman

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    Hi!
    Thanks for the reply.
    My profile is
    Age: 33 yr
    Height: 5'9" i.e 175cm
    Weight: 88kg i.e 194 lb
    B.F around 18
    Cycle experience: I had done a test cyp/tri tren / Winnie earlier. Which I left half way as I had to travel.
    Years of training: around 15 years.

    So this is my second cycle.
    Shall I take test cypo at 400 mg per week and parabo at 150 mg per week?
    This way I can extend the cycle to 10 weeks.

    Also suggest me a pct.

    Looking forward for your valuable input.
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron2203 View Post
    Hi!
    Thanks for the reply.
    My profile is
    Age: 33 yr
    Height: 5'9" i.e 175cm
    Weight: 88kg i.e 194 lb
    B.F around 18
    Cycle experience: I had done a test cyp/tri tren / Winnie earlier. Which I left half way as I had to travel.
    Years of training: around 15 years.

    So this is my second cycle.
    Shall I take test cypo at 400 mg per week and parabo at 150 mg per week?
    This way I can extend the cycle to 10 weeks.

    Also suggest me a pct.

    Looking forward for your valuable input.
    Thank you.
    Welcome to the board.

    I'd recommend dropping BF % to under 15 before you run another cycle. Learn to love cardio and use our nutrition forum to get your diet critiqued. You'd be amazed what you can accomplish with a proper diet.

    Good luck.

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    Thanks austinite, but I've already started the cycle. This being the first week.

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    10 weeks would be the minimum length and 12 would be preferred. Pin twice a week and start HCG weeks 3-4 to PCT.
    PCT would include:
    Clomid-100/50/25/25
    Nolva-40/40/20/20....These are weekly dosages of each.

    I left the other 2 compounds out cause this, in reality, is your first cycle and there's no need to incorporate them. You really need to educate yourself on the compounds you want to use. You came to the right place and do yourself a favor. Don't listen to that dude in the gym. 1 shot of hcg in week 4, and 1 shot later is just dumb.

    Welcome and Good Luck

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    There's one really good advice for a beginner.

    Read the 101 pages about Ronnie Rowland's Slingshot Training System, under "QUESTIONS & ANSWERS" and "YOU'LL WANT TO READ THIS".

    That will tell you a good PCT, and will give you completely new depth of how to implement steroids , and what is the most effective way to do. It really opened my eyes and now I understand everything so much better. It took me 2 weeks to read it, but really really is worth it.

    If you run your current cycle, you'll ruin your health very fast.

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    Thanks stpete
    So you suggest hcg from week 4, every week till pct. so 6 weeks on hcg.
    At what dosage should I take?

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    subQ hcg 250iu 2x/wk using insulin needles

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    SubQ and insulin needles? I don't have much idea about them. Here in the gym they give IM hcg . Would that be ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron2203 View Post
    Hi
    I am doing a 8 week cycle of test cyp/parabolan /anavar at 600 mg/ 225mg weekly and 30 mg anavar every day.

    My trainer said to take a shot of HCG in the 4th week.

    And later another shot of HCG after the cycle.

    Is this as a PCT enough? Is it ok to take HCG during a cycle?

    Please advice me as I am relatively new to this and with limited knowledge. Thanks a lot.
    your trainer knows nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by ron2203 View Post
    Thanks austinite, but I've already started the cycle. This being the first week.
    you already started your cycle and have no idea what a proper pct, hcg or AI, is?

    Quote Originally Posted by ron2203 View Post
    SubQ and insulin needles? I don't have much idea about them. Here in the gym they give IM hcg. Would that be ok?
    you're joking, right? hcg is NOT injected intramuscular. leave that gym immediately before you really mess up your health. and stop your cycle asap. you have no clue what you're doing at this point. honestly, you seriously need to educate yourself before you go any further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    you're joking, right? hcg is NOT injected intramuscular. leave that gym immediately before you really mess up your health. and stop your cycle asap. you have no clue what you're doing at this point. honestly, you seriously need to educate yourself before you go any further.
    HCG can be injected IM with the same effects, most just choose to do Sub-Q because it is extremely easier and not as much pain. It depends on the individual but the HCG will do it's job regardless of IM or Sub-Q.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnnyblazzze

    HCG can be injected IM with the same effects, most just choose to do Sub-Q because it is extremely easier and not as much pain. It depends on the individual but the HCG will do it's job regardless of IM or Sub-Q.
    You are correct, hcg can be used IM or Sub-q, but sub-q is better. IM gets absorbed much faster, where sub-q is much slower and is preferred for that reason. Think of it as a spike of hcg vs. a slow release of hcg. The body can utilize the slow release more efficiently.

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    i stand corrected in HCG IM, thank you Blaze and jasc. but my advice still stands.

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