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    Day 10 of Test E Results so far 1st Cycle(Need Advice!)

    Just trying to get some feedback from some people with experience with this cycle. 1st week ran 750 will be running 500 per week for now on up to 15 weeks. Decided against DBol and Bold for 1st cycle. I do have it though if anyone thinks otherwise would be better. Weight was 174 going in. Today's weigh in was 181.5. Kind of freaked me out. I'm assuming this is water weight, but hope it means great things are coming. Diet is super clean. Drinking a lot of water. Not over training. Even had a day of cardio this week. Please let me know what you think.

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    Likely water weight, but you won't see the actual effects for the test for another couple of weeks.

    Are you taking an AI to keep the estrogen levels in check? If not, you might want to look into starting one.

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    Why did you run 750mgs?

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    I don't have an AI. Thought I would try without it, but I have been looking into it to have one on stand bye. What would you recommend.If there where to be any sides when about would they start? I ran 750 the 1st week with 3 shots spread out over the week because I heard a lot about front loading more than that. So I figured go with 750 the 1st week just in case it was needed. Didn't want to over do it or waste any test. Was that a good move?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pachydurm
    I don't have an AI. Thought I would try without it, but I have been looking into it to have one on stand bye. What would you recommend.If there where to be any sides when about would they start? I ran 750 the 1st week with 3 shots spread out over the week because I heard a lot about front loading more than that. So I figured go with 750 the 1st week just in case it was needed. Didn't want to over do it or waste any test. Was that a good move?
    No, that wasn't a good move. Don't worry, but typically it's better to run consistent dosages to promote stable levels in your system. 500mgs/week is a good first cycle. It's good for the first few cycles, actually.

    As for the AI, I would grab some Arimidex and start on .25mgs/eod. This will combat water retention from elevated estrogen levels.

    You have your PCT lined up, right...?

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    I have a "List", but am trying to narrow it down to what is best. I figure I have a little time before it's needed. From what I hear PCT starts 2 weeks after last Test. What do you think?

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    you need to use an ai now. you should have started it week 1. get a-dex and do .25mg eod and adjust as needed.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pachydurm
    I have a "List", but am trying to narrow it down to what is best. I figure I have a little time before it's needed. From what I hear PCT starts 2 weeks after last Test. What do you think?
    First off, your PCT is as important to the success of your cycle as the gear itself. Secondly, PCT is your only way of helping your body restart it's natural testosterone production.

    That being said, if you're running test-e, your pct will start 14 days after your last pin. You should be running Nolva and Clomid (dosages can be found in the PCT section). Seeing as though you're looking at a 15 week cycle, you also will want to consider taking HCG to prevent testicular atrophy.

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    Can anyone recommend an AI source?

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    yes= the ar-r banner in the top corner of the screen, you can get the nolva and clomid there too
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Smooth! More than helpful. So most likely 2-3 bottles will be needed for AI

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    you will need 3 different things, a-dex, clomid and nolva, 1 bottle of each. Only a-dex is an ai
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Priceless info. Thanks again. JDBeretta mentioned HCG after running Test for 15 weeks. Sound accurate?

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    hcg she be used on cycle. 250iu 2x a week up to start of pct
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Is the PCT and AI oral?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pachydurm
    Priceless info. Thanks again. JDBeretta mentioned HCG after running Test for 15 weeks. Sound accurate?
    Yes, HCG while on cycle. Personally I'd start it around week 8.

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    Yes, they're oral.

    The HCG is typically a sub-q shot.

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    I took everyone's advice. Got the AI, and PCT is in the works. I have another question( Of Coarse!) Does anyone stack with "REGULAR" supplements, and if so what is most beneficial? On day 13 now... I find myself a little stronger, but the main difference is arm size ( They where extremely swollen the day after a hard work out ) hands where as well. The pumps from my workouts are crazy. It seems early to have this effect, but I'm thinking it may be because of my age(33) and the fact that I have never been exposed to test.

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    i just use protein and a multi vitamin and baby asprin.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    And wanted to see what everyone's experience has been with drinking (Beer) on cycle?......On occasion.

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    Good. That's where I'm at accept for the asprin? What's that about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pachydurm View Post
    And wanted to see what everyone's experience has been with drinking (Beer) on cycle?......On occasion.
    everything in moderation. occasional is not an issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Pachydurm View Post
    Good. That's where I'm at accept for the asprin? What's that about?
    its good for your heart, on cycle or not
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    What is a good HCG
    Last edited by Pachydurm; 06-22-2012 at 07:09 PM.

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    cant ask for sources bud.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    point taken... Apology!

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    Will a-dex effect the test at all? Just got it today... Is Letro better?

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    No, you'll be fine. Just don't take too much (.25mgs/eod to start) because there are sides associated with low E as well. You need some to grow...

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    I have been pricking every 3.5 days. i'm in a situation ts week where I may have to wait 4.5 between. Will this cause a problem. Starting week 4.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmer1979 View Post
    I have been pricking every 3.5 days. i'm in a situation ts week where I may have to wait 4.5 between. Will this cause a problem. Starting week 4.

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    Please start your own thread. Likely to get better response.

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