doping cycle

[MarcAntonius]

Hello, my name is Marc : ) and i have some questions.
I practice bjj (gi and nogi) & fitness. I have 27 years, 60-62kgs, my body fat is low, i am at the moment at a low carb diet(with 2-3[33gx2-3]cups 33g proteins of whey proteine per day). I traine like 6-8 times per week. And i used 30mg of winstrol per day(tablets) and that was ok. Now i want to use some turinabol 30-40mg per day, 10mg tamoxifen (or more if u think that isint enough). My question is: Its ok to use clomid to? i dont want to have my level o test low... and clomid & tamox will help me a little bit. I got some problems with gyno, so thats why i want to use aromasin/armidex to, i am afraid that tamox wil not be enough. I know that the best cycle (mass or cut) is with test, but i dont want to use test i am afraid of gyno , and i can use only prop and i will have some problems with injections.

[gixxerboy1]

so you want to use the clomid and nolva at the same time as the t-bol?

[MarcAntonius]

Yes. I know that two of turinabol side effects are: gyno and "shut down of natural test production" and i want to prevent this with clomid, tamoxifen(nolva) and armidex/aromasin. Its ok to do that?

[ISU152]

No. To prevent gyno you can take aromasin at 12.5 - 25 mgs a day. You will not stop tbol from shutting you down so don't even try. You could improve this cycle quite a bit by adding test at 500mgs a week.

[t-dogg]

How has the winny been since you practice bjj? What effects have you had?

[MarcAntonius]

I know that stack(aromasin+test+t-bol) is better, but i dont want that. Thx for answere ISU152.
t-dogg: winny work very nice, fitness + bjj, i drink lots of water, i dont go high dose, and my joints are ok.

[MarcAntonius]

Anyway i could use some oxandrolone instad of turinabol. But i know oxa will shut down the test too.

[stpete]

My recommendation is you need to: A) Seriously consider using test w/cycle. B) And if injections are an issue, and you value the importance of your liver and kidneys, AAS is not for you. Orals are extremely harsh on your liver and kidneys.

[MarcAntonius]

My liver is strong, but kidneys not so strong. = )) I will try to gather some armidex, tamoxifen & aromasin (its very expensive, i got some aromasin but it expired this mounth)

[DanB]

My liver is strong, but kidneys not so strong. = )) I will try to gather some armidex, tamoxifen & aromasin (its very expensive, i got some aromasin but it expired this mounth)

your aromasin is still fine even though it expired

and in all honesty I cant see you needing an a.i. with either the var or tbol providing they legit and running the aromasin could and prob will do more harm then good, keep it on hand just in case but you should be fine

if you dont want to pin then your natty test may be supressed even though its such a low dose, then again it might not, you just have to try it and see

just make sure you do a decent pct and you should be fine

best of luck

[MarcAntonius]

Thx DanB, i want to use an anti-gyno for turinabol, I have sensitive nipples, and i am afraid of gyno. I got all most all stafs from ....... I want to use 30mg of turinasim per day, and in got some liv52 from .... for my liver if i will need.

[DanB]

Turinabol cant aromatase providing its legit tbol, same with var hence why I said it isnt needed so you wont have to worry provided your gear is legit

You can use the liv52 aswell but personally I wouldnt be worried about my liver on that low of a dose, I ran stupid doses of orals in conjunction with accutane and other rx meds and regularly drinking in the past and my BW was fine, wasnt the best idea but sometimes its blown out of porportion the damage that a few weeks or orals will or in this case wont do, but I guess everybody body is different and its better to be safe then sorry

Can you edit out the lab and source name aswell, its not allowed here

Thanks