I was 21 years 6' 175lb lean some what musclar when I started, just 22 now 6' 190 lil more built. I started with sus 250 lab bonoc pyccna (Volos pharma Russia) next vile was test 400 then back to sus 250 now I'm on nandrolone deca lad medistar. I'm looking for more of a bulkier then a shredder after I get to about 220 get that nice cut look. Let me know.