So what was the conclusion on the hgh validity test discussion?

**ttufan111** · 06-19-2012, 06:31 PM

My bottles do not cloud up after being shaken, so should I assume their fake?

**Atomini** · 06-19-2012, 06:52 PM

A lot of these tests like the 'shake test' or the 'boiling test' etc don't prove anything, even if they DO cloud up. The idea that if you shake your vial or if you stick it in boiling water, that it clouds up because the protein becomes denatured, is fundamentally flawed because your vial could easily be any useless protein. You could have a vial of lyophillized egg whites for all you know, which would still cloud up after boiling or shaking the vial. All it proves is that there is a protein substance in it - not that it is necessarily HGH.

And many of those tests conducted WITH the protein in it haven't clouded up at times as well due to whatever unknown factor. The only way to know is either trust your source, use enough iu of GH in one day to elicit side effects (I shot 30iu once of bunk crap HGH and of course I didn't see any sides, but 30iu of real HGH should have hit me like a brick fvcking wall), OR just send your vial out for lab testing.

**ttufan111** · 06-19-2012, 07:02 PM

Where would I send it and about how much does that cost? I finally bumped mine up to 30 iu after months of 1iu and I don't feel anything.

**ttufan111** · 06-19-2012, 07:04 PM

I agree that if it doesn't cloud up that proves nothing but if it doesn't, doesn't that mean its not legit?
Sorry for the confusing English there.

**DanB** · 06-19-2012, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by ttufan111

Where would I send it and about how much does that cost? I finally bumped mine up to 30 iu after months of 1iu and I don't feel anything.

its fake is you have no sides on 30 i.u lol, 6 i.u of pharm cripples me with cts so I cant imagine what 30 i.u would do, just bin it

**Atomini** · 06-19-2012, 07:13 PM

You can google a search for laboratories that do pharmaceutical testing and what not in your area. I know that most universities will do lab testing for little look-sees for people for a fee of like $50 (over here they do anyways).

If it doesn't cloud up it could still very well be HGH. Shoot 10iu at once (from a vial you have NOT shaken violently) and see if you get major carpal tunnel syndrome side effects in a matter of a couple days.

**Atomini** · 06-19-2012, 07:14 PM

Does your HGH brand start with K and end with igtropin? lol

**ttufan111** · 06-19-2012, 07:17 PM

I meant 3iu, not 30. My bad.

**ttufan111** · 06-19-2012, 07:33 PM

There is no such test in the US as far as I can tell.

**Sgt. Hartman** · 06-19-2012, 07:39 PM

^^Correct. There's places that can test the molecular weight and check that's it's 191 amino acid but there is no way to test for biological activity.

**ttufan111** · 06-20-2012, 01:18 PM

Is there a test to verify that testosterone is legit?

**gixxerboy1** · 06-20-2012, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman

^^Correct. There's places that can test the molecular weight and check that's it's 191 amino acid but there is no way to test for biological activity.

agree, us pharm grade gh and then you dont have to worry

**Atomini** · 06-20-2012, 01:27 PM

Is not a test for total protein content all that's needed for confirmation that what's in the vial IS 191AA rHGH?

**gixxerboy1** · 06-20-2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Atomini

Is not a test for total protein content all that's needed for confirmation that what's in the vial IS 191AA rHGH?

from what i understand there is a separate test to determine if its bio available. which for cost reasons isnt possible

**Atomini** · 06-20-2012, 01:39 PM

I actually looked into having a full test done by a couple labs near me... price tag was $1000. And then that's when they suggested that if I can't afford it, university labs would be able to look at it for a small fee. But they didn't specify if the university labs do the same panel of tests.

**Ashop** · 06-20-2012, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by ttufan111

My bottles do not cloud up after being shaken, so should I assume their fake?

I only use pharm grade HGH and my product doesnt cloud up. It disolves quite quickly.

**Juice Authority** · 06-20-2012, 01:43 PM

The best test for GH is personal. Numbness in the hands and feet doesn't mean you have quality GH. I'm using Seros right now and I get none of that but I did with certain generics. Another thing I look for is sleepiness after administration. While that doesn't prove it's quality GH it's a good indicator for me because that is exactly what happens where I use Seros. I also don't always get that reaction from generics.