Propionate Vs. Suspension

[gymsoldier]

Just out of curiosity, how would Test-Suspension @ 75mg ED compare against Test-Prop @ 75mg ED.
And, would anyone here have any preference of the two?

[gixxerboy1]

its just the time release. honestly i would never run suspension as the base of my cycle. if you do i would inject 2x a day

[Razor]

its just the time release. honestly i would never run suspension as the base of my cycle. if you do i would inject 2x a day

I used to be a fan of suspesion but gixx is right to many pinning times

[gymsoldier]

Just one of those things I was thinking about.
I'm half way through 10weeks of Test-E at the moment, but I'll definitely be running Test-Prop for 8 weeks for my second cycle in 2013. So just pre-planning many months in advance.

[magic32]

Prop is enough pinning!

[PowerHouse1900]

Suspension will always be on my list of favorite compounds. Ive never used it as my only source of test. in a cycle.

[stpete]

Prop's the way to go.

[garryjohn89]

I had enough pain with tren a... I don't think i could use suspension even if it was given to me lol... Id run out of sites after two days (only really used to quad and delt shots)

"lift eat sleep & repeat..."

[garryjohn89]

Also i suppose is what you have to look at is getting a constant (level) in your system with prop injections every day pinning is fine as the ester won't taper off before 24 hours dramatically...

With suspension your technically meant to pin 2 or even 4 times a day to get close to stable levels in your system... <- ouch lol
Definitely stick with prop over suspension

"lift eat sleep & repeat..."

[PowerHouse1900]

Suspension is bit painful going in, but once it's in you typically dont have pip. Also It does not need to be injected twice ED. Studies confirm that suspension causes testosterone levels to rise and peak over several days.

[blacksmoke]

Suspension is bit painful going in, but once it's in you typically dont have pip. Also It does not need to be injected twice ED. Studies confirm that suspension causes testosterone levels to rise and peak over several days.

Do you have link to these studies?

[PowerHouse1900]

Do you have link to these studies?

You're going to have to do some digging around in google, that's where I originally found them.

[PowerHouse1900]

http://www.ironmagazine.com/2011/tes...osterone-base/

[swm1972]

I would also question the necessity of maintaining stable blood concentrations for a compound to be effective. The half life on many orals would suggest a similar dosing schedule as many recommend for suspension. But I've never noticed any difference in effectiveness regardless of taking my dose all at once or breaking it up into two or more doses. I doubt anyone would argue dbol , abombs, or Anavar is ineffective.

[gixxerboy1]

^^^ i dont think it would be inefective. but you may have more sides or feel crappy from your test levels being a rollercoaster

[swm1972]

^^^ i dont think it would be inefective. but you may have more sides or feel crappy from your test levels being a rollercoaster

I know natural testosterone levels fluctuate, I wonder how stable/level your body self regulates itself. Anyone ever seen studies?

When your body produces test it is not esterized. So unless it produces a slow steady constant stream there would be some fluctuation.

[gixxerboy1]

I know natural testosterone levels fluctuate, I wonder how stable/level your body self regulates itself. Anyone ever seen studies?

When your body produces test it is not esterized. So unless it produces a slow steady constant stream there would be some fluctuation.

i would assume this would be worse. Because you are injecting more then you would naturally make. And if you waiting 24 hours for next injection it would drop pretty low. So i think the fluctuation would be alot more

[Capebuffalo]

I have love of the suspension. In terms of gaining mass and strength the benefits based on its attributes are the same with Testosterone Suspension as they are with any other form of testosterone . However, because this form is ester free giving it more of a punch on a milligram for milligram basis we can expect the effects of these attributes to be increased. While this steroid can be used for either bulking or cutting cycles many who use it will only do so during a bulking phase as water retention can be a problem due to the high rate of aromatase; however, especially in the competitive bodybuilding world many competitors will use Testosterone-Suspension during a cutting cycle in preparation for a contest due to the need to reap powerfully fast effects as well as the site-injection benefits. Testosterone-Suspension can aptly increase the size of the injected muscle in the short run which can be at times a welcomed effect; assuming you can tolerate the pain associated with injecting this steroid.

An often overlooked attribute regarding Testosterone Suspension is detectability; because it is ester free it clears the system very rapidly making detection all the more difficult. In a tested athlete this proves to be very advantageous as Testosterone-Suspension can only be detected for approximately two days after an injection. This by no means gets the athlete completely out of the water but without question provides a strong advantage.

[logen32]

My first cycle was with 500 mg/week suspension. Although weight gain and strength came on fast and aggression in the gym was great its nevertheless is still a painful hassle. I believe you really need to do 2x injections a day. I started with injecting only once a day (thinking I could get away with it) but I end up having headaches by the end of the day and felt an over dip in energy as the day went by. The moment I switched to 2x injections both of those problems went away.


I think if you were using it along side a cycle you could inject 100mg before a workout for extra aggression in the gym. But the downfall to that would be unstable blood levels.

[dren]

I was going to post this exact question P vs S but I see it's already answered my question.
But another question I got is.
I want to use P or S at the beginning of a cycle I was always fascinated with reading up on suspension on how it gets you jacked and so on, if I do 2 shots a day would I be able to sleep?

Also masterone prop. Is it the same as test prop?

[gixxerboy1]

I was going to post this exact question P vs S but I see it's already answered my question.
But another question I got is.
I want to use P or S at the beginning of a cycle I was always fascinated with reading up on suspension on how it gets you jacked and so on, if I do 2 shots a day would I be able to sleep?

Also masterone prop. Is it the same as test prop?

no one is masternone the other is test. propaniate is the ester

[dren]

What's the smallest needle can I use with prop/ susp. As I would shoot the entire body, can't be using my current 23g 1.5"

[logen32]

After vigorous shaking and a running the vial under hot water. I was able to get it through a 25g.

[Capebuffalo]

You get more with suspension. There is no water so you get 100% testosterone

[dren]

You get more with suspension. There is no water so you get 100% testosterone

seems like you got alot of experience with suspension, im looking to just get strength gains, whats the longest can i run suspension for and not to sure if you can post names but you got a fav brand?

[Capebuffalo]

seems like you got alot of experience with suspension, im looking to just get strength gains, whats the longest can i run suspension for and not to sure if you can post names but you got a fav brand?

Don't know if I'm supposed to say but I can edit it. piss water labs

[curioususer]

are they superior to test cyp?

[DanB]

By far

[Capebuffalo]

You get more with suspension. There is no water so you get 100% testosterone

That should have read no ester. I use tne so there's no water. But it having no ester makes it 100%

[Capebuffalo]

are they superior to test cyp?

Cyp is a type of test. Piss water is a ugl.

[DanB]

Cyp is a type of test. Piss water is a ugl.

excuse me but pisswater labs also makes cyp and it is superior to everything bar buysteroid.com

[Capebuffalo]

excuse me but pisswater labs also makes cyp and it is superior to everything bar buysteroid.com

If you can get it. They put me on a wait list last time. Very popular

[DanB]

If you can get it. They put me on a wait list last time. Very popular

I know a rep, hit me up if you need to get your order moving

[dren]

i looked it up and its to expensive for a bottle $60 for 10ML whats this world coming to

[Capebuffalo]

I know a rep, hit me up if you need to get your order moving

Preciate it. That would be cool.

[snowblowjoe]

Cape buffalo have you heard that test suspension has much more side effects then the other testosterone esters? Test suspension intrigues me I'd like to do a sample

[freddy1418]

Cape buffalo have you heard that test suspension has much more side effects then the other testosterone esters? Test suspension intrigues me I'd like to do a sample

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