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06-23-2012, 12:03 PM #1New Member
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First cycle questions! Help greatly appreciated!
Hey everyone, I have my cycle made up and was wondering if anyone could take a look at it and tell me if it looks good or what's wrong with it? This is my first cycle and i'm planning on running test E with D-bol for a first cycle kick start. * I don't plan on starting any time soon as I feel I need to build a bigger base, but would like to do research and educate myself as best I can up until the point I do start.*
1st Month (Dbol kick start)
Week 1: Test Enanthate 500mg (250mg mon/thurs) / Dianabol 30mg ED / .5mg Arimidex EOD
Week 2: Test Enanthate 500mg (250mg mon/thurs) / Dianabol 30mg ED / .5mg Arimidex EOD
Week 3: Test Enanthate 500mg (250mg mon/thurs) / Dianabol 30mg ED / .5mg Arimidex EOD / 500 iu HCG (250 iu every 4 days)
Week 4: Test Enanthate 500mg (250mg mon/thurs) / Dianabol 30mg ED / .5mg Arimidex EOD / 500 iu HCG (250 iu every 4 days)
2nd Month
Week 5: Test Enanthate 500mg (250mg mon/thurs) / 500 iu HCG (250 iu every 4 days) /.5mg Arimidex EOD
Week 6: Test Enanthate 500mg (250mg mon/thurs) / 500 iu HCG (250 iu every 4 days) /.5mg Arimidex EOD
Week 7: Test Enanthate 500mg (250mg mon/thurs) / 500 iu HCG (250 iu every 4 days) /.5mg Arimidex EOD
Week 8: Test Enanthate 500mg (250mg mon/thurs) / 500 iu HCG (250 iu every 4 days) /.5mg Arimidex EOD
3rd Month
Week 9: Test Enanthate 500mg (250mg mon/thurs) / 500 iu HCG (250 iu every 4 days) / .5mg Arimidex EOD
Week 10: Test Enanthate 500mg (250mg mon/thurs)/ 500 iu HCG (250 iu every 4 days) / .5mg Arimidex EOD
Week 11: Test Enanthate 500mg (250mg mon/thurs)/ 500 iu HCG (250 iu every 4 days) / .5mg Arimidex EOD
Week 12: Test Enanthate 500mg (250mg mon/thurs)/ 500 iu HCG (250 iu every 4 days) / .5mg Arimidex EOD
Week 13: Wait 2 weeks after last injection to start PCT
Week 14:
4th Month (PCT, to keep gains)
Week 15: Nolvadex 40mg ED / Clomid 50g ED / Creatine
Week 16: Nolvadex 40mg ED / Clomid 50g ED / Creatine
Week 17: Nolvadex 20mg ED / Clomid 50g ED / Creatine
Week 18: Nolvadex 20mg ED / Clomid 50g ED / Creatine
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I have a few questions aswell;
1.Should I run the HCG into the 2 week break period at week 13 or 14? Or am I right to not take anything at all for those 2 weeks to completely flush out my system for PCT?
2. Is there ANY chance I could get an estrogen rebound after PCT (gyno ) with this cycle considering i'm using Adex .5mg EOD throughout cycle, then using nolva and clomid during PCT? Or does the AI make sure that's impossible to happen since estrogen levels will remain low?
Thanks in advance!
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06-23-2012, 12:17 PM #2
stats, age, DIET?
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06-23-2012, 12:31 PM #3New Member
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As I said I know i'm not ready yet as I need to build a bigger base which will take alot time, but my current stats are:
Age: 21 (have stopped growing)
5"10
165 lbs (looking to get up to 175-180 before starting)
3 years exp weight lifting, 2 years serious (5 days a week)
Clean bulking diet, 3500-4000 cals a day
Any insight on my cycle / questions?
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Too young & too light.
Wait 3-5 years of eating and lifting.
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06-23-2012, 12:37 PM #5New Member
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06-23-2012, 01:02 PM #6
Back on topic. Explain how this effects your hpta and endocrine system and you will get advice. All you want.
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06-23-2012, 01:04 PM #7
as for your question i would run the hcg up to pct
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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06-23-2012, 01:10 PM #8New Member
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Really? After stating I'm not considering taking them for a long time (years) you're still not going to give advice..? Does one really need to say they're 25 just to get any insight around here? There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS too young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems, etc.
Can someone please give advice on my CYCLE rather than lecture me on being too young / not ready? Considering I'm AGREEING with you that I'm not ready.
Thanks.
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06-23-2012, 01:38 PM #9
Bad attitude young gun. But you answered the question. Drop the dbol 1 st cycle. Rest looks good. I would work on pct. clomid 100/50/50/50 Novla 40/20/20/20.
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06-23-2012, 01:49 PM #10New Member
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Apologies for the attitude, just looking for solid advice on my cycle rather on being told I'm not ready which I'm aware of. :P
Thanks for the info. I have a question for you though;
I've heard that it's best to start your first cycle with a Dbol oral "kickstart" to maximize results because your first cycle is the "golden" cycle where majority of gains are made. I'm assuming you're saying to drop the Dbol to see how my body reacts to the test alone, so I know where my sides come from if I get any, correct? Or is there another reason?
Wouldn't using the AI at .5mg EOD throughout the cycle ensure I won't get any gyno sides by kickstarting with Dbol?
Thanks for the response and again sorry for the attitude. I appreciate the help.
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06-23-2012, 01:50 PM #11
Welcome to the board mate!
Obviously, we are very sensitive to youngsters asking for cycle advice, regardless if they tell us they are not planning any time soon. We get this very same scenerio all the time, and we like to be careful.
To answer your question, I'd drop the dbol for the first cycle. stick with test only and get a clear understanding of how test effects your body. Taking a scientific approach, only add one unknown chemical into your body at a time, so that if "something" happens, it is probably the previously unknown (untried) chemical.
Cheers
---Roman
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I see em at the gym. . . .
Sure thing, 21 and just swoled up in like 4 months.
You don't ask 4 years in advance.
But true, test on the 1st run and it will work just fine.
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06-23-2012, 05:28 PM #13
Please. train another 10 years. then try!
We do not get old by destroying our hormone systems, nor by looking for quick fixes. I trained for 30 years first! Listen to the older members. John
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