Test flu

[M37H]

Hey guys I've been doing 1ml twice a week if sus 250 and now I have a really bad flu should I drop down to 1ml every 5 days because this is my first cycle and maybe my body cant handle it ? Any advice would be appreciated thanks .

Weight :72kg
Age : 25
Height: 175
Bf: %11

[Capebuffalo]

You have been doing 250mg 2 x a week for how long. If you go to 5 days your hormone level will fluctuate. Keep on tract. It will get better.

[jpowell]

Curious as to why u say or think you got test flu.? Theres been alot of debates (not sure bout actual studies) that its broscience.

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[Capebuffalo]

Curious as to why u say or think you got test flu.? Theres been alot of debates (not sure bout actual studies) that its broscience.

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prop would always make me feel like shit the first 2 weeks. No other test have I ever had a problem with. Thats what I have always called test flu because of the symptoms. My understanding is your hormones going crazy trying to deal with the ester.

[Capebuffalo]

That was my broscience. Here is part of my theses :a natural defense mechanism - to the sudden increase in exogenous hormone levels. Its the body's way of trying to "flush" out the foreign entity it perceives is there (just as it does w/ a flu virus). There has also been some connection between high BA content and immune response. think the combination of sudden increased hormone levels and a foreign substance being injected into the muscle can cause these symptoms. Some people are sensitive, some arent. Certain people don’t experience it at all and some might just get mild chills (low grade fever) or a runny nose for a few days and not even take much note of it.

etiocholanolone represents only about 20% of the metabolites of testosterone in people. Maybe folks who experience this reaction to testosteone have particularly high levels of 17 beta hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase, the enzyme that converts testosterone into etiocholanolone. Or an isoform of the enzyme that makes the conversion more efficient.

Etiocholanolone is believed to produce fever and flu-like aches and pains because it induces the systemic release of Interleukin-1, a powerful proinflammatory cytokine:

Pyrogenicity of etiocholanolone and interleukin-1 in New and Old World Monkeys.

Steinetz BG, Randolph C, Werner R, Mahoney CJ.

New York University Medical Center, Laboratory for Experimental Medicine and Surgery in Primates, Tuxedo 10987, USA. [email protected]

Etiocholanolone (5beta-androstan-3alpha-ol-17-one; designated E) is one of the major products of metabolism of testosterone and androstenedione (androst-4-ene-3,17-dione) in many mammalian species, including humans. E and several other 5beta-reduced steroids have been found to induce fever in humans. The pyrogenic effect of these steroids has been shown to be due to the release of interleukin-1 (IL-1) from the leukocytes that are mobilized in response to the steroid injections. Old World Monkeys such as Rhesus monkeys (Macaca mu/atta), metabolize androgens similarly to humans, and E is a normal metabolite. However, New World Monkeys such as Squirrel monkeys (Saimiri sciureus), lack hepatic 5alpha- and 5beta-steroid reductases and excrete androgens primarily in an unaltered state; E is not produced. Therefore, we postulate that Squirrel monkeys likewise may have lost the ability to respond to 17-ketosteroids such as E. To test this hypothesis, adult male Rhesus and Squirrel monkeys were treated with E, and their rectal temperatures were recorded over a 24-hr period. Rhesus monkeys exhibited a rise of up to 3 degrees F following E injection. Squirrel monkeys, on the other hand, did not exhibit any increase in rectal temperature over the 24-hr period, even when doses up to 250 times the effective human dose were used. However, both species responded to injected IL-1alpha with a robust increase in rectal temperature. The data show that E is pyrogenic in Rhesus, but not Squirrel monkeys. The findings support the notion that injected E may induce release of IL-1 in Rhesus monkeys, but not in Squirrel monkeys

Do you know how hard it is to live with a juiced up squirrel monkey? It's anarchy.

[jasc]

prop would always make me feel like shit the first 2 weeks. No other test have I ever had a problem with. Thats what I have always called test flu because of the symptoms. My understanding is your hormones going crazy trying to deal with the ester.

Same.. but mine only lasts the first 3-4 days and goes away early afternoon.. It feels just like the flu (nausea, loss of apettite, minor disorientation, fluctuating body temp).

[M37H]

Yeah cape 250mg of 1ml twice a week and I'm sick as a dog with the flu so you don't recommend reducing the dosage to every 5 days? My mate also got sick in he's 2nd week into cycle an is only doing 1.5ml e5d.

[Capebuffalo]

Yeah cape 250mg of 1ml twice a week and I'm sick as a dog with the flu so you don't recommend reducing the dosage to every 5 days? My mate also got sick in he's 2nd week into cycle an is only doing 1.5ml e5d.

Like Jasc said it will pass. You just work through. Advil and vitamin c help me.

[BlueWaffle21]

I got hit with a nasty week long flu, who knows if it was test related or not. I hadn't been sick in a long time prior and nobody around me had a flu recently. If anything I felt more healthy than I had in a long while. Think it hit me in week 4 or 5, I can't remember!!

[M37H]

Cool ok I'll work through it and hopefully doesn't happen again till next year lol , but curious question if I did drop dosage down to e5d what would happen and how bad would it be?

[BlueWaffle21]

Sides can be more of an issue due to the fluctuation in hormone levels. I'm sure one of the vets will jump on and elaborate all the possible issues!!

[M37H]

Ok that would be good to hear what they have to say about this topic. Thanks for the help so far guys.

[Capebuffalo]

Can you handle it or do you want to stop your cycle. Cowboy the fu*k up. It will come and it will pass.

[M37H]

Lol ok Ill cowboy the f**k up don't want to stop my cycle I've come this far .

[MuscleInk]

Interesting. Test prop/cyp never caused problems for me. Tren and winni were always issues (illness, myalgia, arthralgia, injuries)

[Capebuffalo]

Lol ok Ill cowboy the f**k up don't want to stop my cycle I've come this far .

Then let's do this thing.