im new to this need as much info i can get

**bigb0715** · 06-28-2012, 07:07 AM

As stated above I'm new to this . My stats
57"
185 lbs
A bit of a belly.
I got a cycle of deca and cypa .
I seen that I can take at same time. Also I seen once u inject the pin all the way in . Are u suppose to pull back on plunger to get a lil air in tube ? My buddy said just Inject it . Also the guy I got it from said to do 1 CC of test and .5 CC of deca . He gave 3 bottles of test and 1 of deca .is this right ? Also need info on what size pins to use and were to inject .also what should I expect for results.

Thanks

**DanB** · 06-28-2012, 07:15 AM

cc means nothing, you need to know the mg/ml

what does a bit of a belly mean? whats your bodyfat?

so stats

age
height - 5'7
bodyfat
weight - 185

have you a pct planned and an a.i?

you done any research before you decide to inject something into your glute?

results will vary from nothing, gyno, bloat, or gain LBM all depending on use of an a.i, diet and mg/ml if the gear

**jpowell** · 06-28-2012, 07:15 AM

what are the goals of this cycle? obvi to bulk i hope? what level is your body fat? hows your diet? what concentration do you have? (amount of oils per ml/cc on vials)

**jpowell** · 06-28-2012, 07:16 AM

damn u loser, beat me to it.

**Capebuffalo** · 06-28-2012, 07:20 AM

I have to be honest your lack of basic knowledge scares the hell out of me. Please answer all the questions above. The good news is you came here before you did something stupid. Also I will go ahead and tell you to save the deca . First cycle test only. Welcome

**Ares101** · 06-28-2012, 08:17 AM

You need to put all your gear away, research here for six months because you really have no idea what your doing. Do yourself a favor and just wait to take that stuff till you figure out what your doing. Not trying to be mean, just don't want to see someone taking people's advice without doing there own research.

**bigb0715** · 06-28-2012, 05:41 PM

First off I would like to thank everyone for there replays and concerns . Not sure on my body fat . How do you measure? I am 33 . The belly is not huge . More of a beer belly . Like I said I am 185 the most fat I got is my belly I am normally 175 . My goal for first cycle is a lot of cardio plus try and bulk up a bit at same time . I respect everyone's opinion on what I should do . I have been doing research for about a month . Honestly I started my injections today . I used 25g 1 1/2 inch felt like I was going to fante . What are other injection spots that work effectively also size of pin . Please need as much info I can get . Also if any one can recommend a good diet .

**jpowell** · 06-28-2012, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by bigb0715

First off I would like to thank everyone for there replays and concerns . Not sure on my body fat . How do you measure? I am 33 . The belly is not huge . More of a beer belly . Like I said I am 185 the most fat I got is my belly I am normally 175 . My goal for first cycle is a lot of cardio plus try and bulk up a bit at same time . I respect everyone's opinion on what I should do . I have been doing research for about a month . Honestly I started my injections today . I used 25g 1 1/2 inch felt like I was going to fante . What are other injection spots that work effectively also size of pin . Please need as much info I can get . Also if any one can recommend a good diet .

i c what cape was talking talking about now. fellas we have another ill advised unplanned cycler. your are literally boutta throw a cpl hundred dollars out the window. things i highlighted in green you should have researched before you started.

**bigb0715** · 06-28-2012, 05:59 PM

Oh as I forgot I'm not around but bottles of test are test c 300 mg/ ml I think the decades is the same . As my friend told me to take 1/2 deca and 1 test cypa

**slimpickings** · 06-28-2012, 08:49 PM

Hey bigb if you read it they will come. I mean the answer to your ?s. And it free this is the place to be if you want to learn about AAS. So take the time and educate yourself bro.

**< <Samson> >** · 06-28-2012, 08:54 PM

How do you ask after you inject?

Good luck man!

**bigb0715** · 06-28-2012, 08:55 PM

Thanks slim

**castiron** · 06-28-2012, 09:11 PM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.T-0c5rXbCSo

**bigb0715** · 06-29-2012, 12:19 AM

Samson I asked before I injectected . I had some problems trying to find my thread

**btern** · 06-29-2012, 12:49 AM

bro, big mistake, i dont want to take a stab at you but like the boyz said above why would you inject something in your body you no so little about? have you planned your ai and pct? put the deca away (if not the test aswell along with it) and do your research before you gamble with your health, and first cycle test only as said above.... btern!!

**bigb0715** · 06-29-2012, 11:23 AM

OK I will do thanks to all of you for your concerns. If you don't mind what is the pct and A.I . I'm glad I found this forum . You guys are a great help I really appreciate all your info and concerns

**lstbred** · 06-29-2012, 11:35 AM

Seriously bro, as a rookie myself, Ive read the forum for at least 2 hrs a day everyday for months. You really should STOP what you're doing completely and get more education, that is readily available here, and if your not clear on what your reading, I wasnt all the time either, we have LOTS of people who are willing to help if you make the effort to learn. Before you really make a mistake and F yourself. Im not trying to be a dick, Im just watching out.

**bigb0715** · 06-29-2012, 12:45 PM

Yes I know everyone is kinda being harsh on me but I know its for my best interest. And I thank everyone for it . I am going to stop and do more research and go from there . But if any one can help out and exlpain or tell me what the I need to do for first cycle .

**< <Samson> >** · 06-29-2012, 04:09 PM

You need to know your Bf%(at least post a pic to get an idea if you have other way of checking).

If you are under 15% Bf you should be aight.

What kinda test? I would suggest the usual Test Enan or Cyp, since you will only have to shoot 2x weekly(do like Sunday & Thursday to space it semi equally). If you are okay with shots, do prop EOD (every other day).

If you do one of the first 2, run them for 10-12 weeks. If you run prop, run it for 8 weeks. Since the first 2 take about 2-3 weeks to build up and kick in.

Use test only on your first run, trust me - if it's legit shit it will be plenty.

If you are running one of the 1st 2, I would suggest 250mg x2 weekly(you can go a bit lower, but 500mg a week total is fairly standard). If you have chosen prop, run it at 100mg EOD.

As for Ai(Aromatase Inhibitor), it will be the same for all types of test. I used liquid stane, worked just fine. I would suggest half of a cc EOD. Then go from there is you see any sides. At a point in my cycle I kicked it up because I seen some puffiness around the nipple area. Then later in the cycle I cut it way down to about half of acc every 4-5 days or so.

As for PCT(Post Cycle Therapy ), if you are using the cyp you should start PCT 18 Days after your last shot or 14 days if you are on Enan. But, if you are on prop you will only need to wait 72 hours from your last shot since the half life(how long it stays in your system) is much shorter.

Your PCT should consist of Clomid & Nolva(tamoxifen ) for 4 weeks as fallows - Clomid @ 40/40/20/20 & Nolva @ 75/50/50/25.

Eat a lot & as clean as possible or the ol' fat will find you. Throughout PCT eat even more, kick in a bit of semi healthy fats and foods rich in cholesterol to help retain your gains.