First Cycle Tips and Advice

**joshmile88** · 06-29-2012, 11:31 AM

Hey everyone, gonna start my first cycle (Test E 250) this Sunday. I will be doing the standard 12 week cycle injecting 250mg 2 times a week on Wednesday and Sunday, so 500mg per week. I have a-dex that I will be running at .25 eod if I start to see any negative sides. For PCT I have nolva that i will be starting 14-18 days after last injection at 40/40/20/20.
I'm 22, have been lifting for 6 years but I know I'll get some criticism for not waiting until I'm 25, but I'm eager to make some more gains as I have hit a plateau on most of my lifts.
I'm 6'3 220lbs and about 9-10% BF.
A question I have is should I start taking the a-dex right away, or if I start to see some negative sides. I've uploaded a pic of my gear too.
Thanks.

**gymsoldier** · 06-29-2012, 11:37 AM

The first thing you're going to told is edit out the lab names.
Then people will read further on in your post, and yes you are right, criticism over not being 25.

Also, why is everyone around 10% BF or "low body fat". Not to troll, but the majority of people who think their 10% or sub, are not.

**joshmile88** · 06-29-2012, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by gymsoldier

The first thing you're going to told is edit out the lab names.
Then people will read further on in your post, and yes you are right, criticism over not being 25.

Also, why is everyone around 10% BF or "low body fat". Not to troll, but the majority of people who think their 10% or sub, are not.

Pic is edited.

**papa-g** · 06-29-2012, 11:46 AM

I bet he has Great genetics too.

**gymsoldier** · 06-29-2012, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by papa-g

I bet he has Great genetics too.

I actually LOL'd.

**papa-g** · 06-29-2012, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by gymsoldier

I actually LOL'd.

It's like they practice this speech in the mirror before they post it.

**gymsoldier** · 06-29-2012, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by papa-g

It's like they practice this speech in the mirror before they post it.

Saying that, my first cycle critique post sounded like I was presenting to members of a jury.
But yeah I get what what you mean ha.

**joshmile88** · 06-29-2012, 12:04 PM

Added a pic from when I was bulking a few months ago

**papa-g** · 06-29-2012, 12:05 PM

Ok and now for some real advise.
A: don't do it. Reason: you are so wrong about hitting any kind of plateau at your age. I also doubt you are under 10% bf so if you reconfigure your diet you can get more results at your young age.

Also by introducing Aas now you risk screwing up your body in the long run and r ding up on TRT for the rest of your life.

No if you like the sound of that along with early ED and depression problems then sure steroids are for you. But I'd bet that if you posted a typical days meals and a current pic of yourself 10/10 people here would say you ate not ready.

**joshmile88** · 06-29-2012, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by papa-g

Ok and now for some real advise.
A: don't do it. Reason: you are so wrong about hitting any kind of plateau at your age. I also doubt you are under 10% bf so if you reconfigure your diet you can get more results at your young age.

Also by introducing Aas now you risk screwing up your body in the long run and r ding up on TRT for the rest of your life.

No if you like the sound of that along with early ED and depression problems then sure steroids are for you. But I'd bet that if you posted a typical days meals and a current pic of yourself 10/10 people here would say you ate not ready.

Are you on anything? Judging by your display pic I'd think not.

**papa-g** · 06-29-2012, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by joshmile88

Are you on anything? Judging by your display pic I'd think not.

That pic is 2 years old and a pre contest cut.

**papa-g** · 06-29-2012, 12:25 PM

And if that is you you look good. And for 22 that's great. Just wait for your hormones to level of mid to late 20's.

But to answer your original question. Adex should be ran from the beginning. Around .25 EOD and I'd run clomid and nolva for pct.

**ttufan111** · 06-29-2012, 12:51 PM

Make sure you sterilize the area you're injecting. Infections suck...I know.

**joshmile88** · 06-29-2012, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by papa-g

And if that is you you look good. And for 22 that's great. Just wait for your hormones to level of mid to late 20's.

But to answer your original question. Adex should be ran from the beginning. Around .25 EOD and I'd run clomid and nolva for pct.

alright thanks man. ill run the adex from the start.

**joshmile88** · 06-29-2012, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by ttufan111

Make sure you sterilize the area you're injecting. Infections suck...I know.

of course bro.

**Capebuffalo** · 06-29-2012, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by papa-g

That pic is 2 years old and a pre contest cut.

What weight class. How did you do ? If you don't mind me asking.

**papa-g** · 06-29-2012, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

What weight class. How did you do ? If you don't mind me asking.

No why would I mind. This was my first. And I was in a class with 155-165. Don't remember if it had a name. It was also a novice or first timer category. I took second. There are some pics of the contest in my profile I think. The following year I competed in the next class up and also got second but I felt like I did not cut enough.

**Capebuffalo** · 06-29-2012, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by papa-g

No why would I mind. This was my first. And I was in a class with 155-165. Don't remember if it had a name. It was also a novice or first timer category. I took second. There are some pics of the contest in my profile I think. The following year I competed in the next class up and also got second but I felt like I did not cut enough.

That great congrats. You say 2 yrs ago?I weighed in at 164 in early weigh in on a Friday. Middle weight.2009 It awesome isnt it?Damn i've only done the one . Looking at masters maybe.

**papa-g** · 06-29-2012, 02:33 PM

Good luck. I went to the Arnold this past year and was so jealous of everyone there. I felt tiny. I'm looking to compete at around 185 at my next one. So I'm concentrating at bulking for while while adding in my first cycle. I know I sometimes give out advise on how to cycle even though I haven't yet but I've got a good grasp on it as I've been training for a whole and learning about aas for around 7-8 years now. I turn 30 in Nov and I'll start my cycle as soon as my elbow surgery I had Tuesday heals up. CB you are a great asset to the board.

**Capebuffalo** · 06-29-2012, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by papa-g;605***7

Good luck. I went to the Arnold this past year and was so jealous of everyone there. I felt tiny. I'm looking to compete at around 185 at my next one. So I'm concentrating at bulking for while while adding in my first cycle. I know I sometimes give out advise on how to cycle even though I haven't yet but I've got a good grasp on it as I've been training for a whole and learning about aas for around 7-8 years now. I turn 30 in Nov and I'll start my cycle as soon as my elbow surgery I had Tuesday heals up. CB you are a great asset to the board.

I think you mean I'm an ass on the board

Nationals are in Atlanta this year. Im excited .Went last time.Met Cutler Ronnie and Dex. Unreal. And the free stuff. Would love to go to Columbus. Hell and to Vegas. Good luck with surgery and recovery.

**papa-g** · 06-29-2012, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

I think you mean I'm an ass on the board

Nationals are in Atlanta this year. Im excited .Went last time.Met Cutler Ronnie and Dex. Unreal. And the free stuff. Would love to go to Columbus. Hell and to Vegas. Good luck with surgery and recovery.

Yeah it was sponsor heaven. Thanx and I'm hoping for a speedy recovery as well. I had a bone spur shaved off. Dr say I can put weight on it by the end of the month. Until the my legs are gonna hate me!!