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    I have several general questions about test before I decide what to do..

    Okay before anyone asks..

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    187lbs
    15-17% bf
    14 years training
    Starting weight at 17 was 145lbs

    I am currently 3 weeks into a natural 6 week bulk, (aiming for 190, started at 182) After this I will do 3 weeks keto diet to get down to 178 and 12% bf. (I'm an ectomorph, can lose fat easily)

    I plan to rebound straight from that keto into a test cycle, probably 10 weeks of test e at 300mg pw to keep things simple. Here are my questions.

    1, When people talk about a 10 week cycle, is that 10 weeks of injections or do they add the 2 week buffer before pct into that number?

    2, I have done 2 Dbol only cycles before. The last one especially, I kept the majority of my gains as I didn't get too much water retention really. The main thing I noticed, was that my libido went through the roof and I felt energetic and happy throughout. This I assume due to the Dbol taking over the role of Test in my system. After the initial lull in pct, I felt 100% normal within 2 weeks, including rapid ball 'regrowth'. My question is, is this an indicator that I have good genetics for recovery or would a test cycle be a whole new ball game in this respect? (obv pct will be longer, 4 weeks clom and nolv)

    3, My main reason for doing this is to bring up my weak areas. They are mainly chest, traps and neck. I hear that the traps and neck contain a large amount of androgen receptors, so if i hit those areas hard (which I didn't do specifically last cycle) should I expect more noticeable growth here over other body parts?

    4, As I plan on doing 300mg per week, I will probably split it into 150mg mondays/thursdays. Is it easy to draw the final 0.5ml out of a vial or do people generally chuck the last tiny bit away? Basically is a 10ml vial dosed at 300mg/ml enough for a 10 week cycle in this respect?

    5, So apparently it takes 3/4 weeks to 'kick in'. Now, I would like to know what that exactly means. I assume it means that it takes that long before the weight starts to shoot up and you start putting on size. What about the dopamine effects, the libido effects, strength? I assume these kick in sooner than 4 weeks? If not, the test must be doing something in there?

    6, I would like to pin my quads only. Regarding the target area that you're supposed to pin, is it possible to say pin the right leg lower quad on Monday, then left leg on Thursday, followed by upper right quad Monday and upper left on Thursday, rinse/repeat. Basically can you do the same quad weekly if you spread the injection site apart by 6 inches? If that makes sense.

    7. Does HCG make a considerable difference to recovery? Both in time and reducing risk of permanent shut down. Those who have done cycles with and without HCG, do you think it is worth it or is the difference negligible in the grand scheme of things?

    8. On my dbol cycle I noticed faster/slightly thicker growth of facial hair and I can't be sure but I have sporadic hairs on my back that I'm almost certain wern't there a year ago. Would a test cycle potentially cause these symptoms to progress?

    I would prefer answers from guys who have experience in what I have asked. Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitario View Post
    Okay before anyone asks..

    31
    5ft 11
    187lbs
    15-17% bf
    14 years training
    Starting weight at 17 was 145lbs

    I am currently 3 weeks into a natural 6 week bulk, (aiming for 190, started at 182) After this I will do 3 weeks keto diet to get down to 178 and 12% bf. (I'm an ectomorph, can lose fat easily)

    I plan to rebound straight from that keto into a test cycle, probably 10 weeks of test e at 300mg pw to keep things simple. Here are my questions.

    1, When people talk about a 10 week cycle, is that 10 weeks of injections or do they add the 2 week buffer before pct into that number? 10 weeks of injections, not including pct. Length of time between end of cycle and pct depends on the compound you use for cycle.

    2, I have done 2 Dbol only cycles before. The last one especially, I kept the majority of my gains as I didn't get too much water retention really. The main thing I noticed, was that my libido went through the roof and I felt energetic and happy throughout. This I assume due to the Dbol taking over the role of Test in my system. After the initial lull in pct, I felt 100% normal within 2 weeks, including rapid ball 'regrowth'. My question is, is this an indicator that I have good genetics for recovery or would a test cycle be a whole new ball game in this respect? (obv pct will be longer, 4 weeks clom and nolv) I'd go test only on next cycle. See how you react. Not sure if that would be a different ball game in terms of recvery like you had with dbol, someone else may be able to shed some light here. Lucky though, test should always be base.

    3, My main reason for doing this is to bring up my weak areas. They are mainly chest, traps and neck. I hear that the traps and neck contain a large amount of androgen receptors, so if i hit those areas hard (which I didn't do specifically last cycle) should I expect more noticeable growth here over other body parts? Not sure about the androgens, but it makes sense that if you focus on an area, it may respond better! I'd be interested to know if anyone can shed light on androgens in this area, I've never heard of this in 15 years of training!

    4, As I plan on doing 300mg per week, I will probably split it into 150mg mondays/thursdays. Is it easy to draw the final 0.5ml out of a vial or do people generally chuck the last tiny bit away? Basically is a 10ml vial dosed at 300mg/ml enough for a 10 week cycle in this respect? It's easy, but always over order so you aren't left scrimping. That's what I'd do anyhow. There's a small amount of watage that may happen as you go

    5, So apparently it takes 3/4 weeks to 'kick in'. Now, I would like to know what that exactly means. I assume it means that it takes that long before the weight starts to shoot up and you start putting on size. What about the dopamine effects, the libido effects, strength? I assume these kick in sooner than 4 weeks? If not, the test must be doing something in there? Yep, even up to 5 weeks. What you feel depends on the quality of compound and the individual too. And there's a fine line between placebo and what is 'real' haha! Definately 3-5 weeks for strength and size. Dude, you'll just have to give it a go to find out!

    6, I would like to pin my quads only. Regarding the target area that you're supposed to pin, is it possible to say pin the right leg lower quad on Monday, then left leg on Thursday, followed by upper right quad Monday and upper left on Thursday, rinse/repeat. Basically can you do the same quad weekly if you spread the injection site apart by 6 inches? If that makes sense. I would say better to swap sites. Eg right quad, left quad. That would really be enough with test e pinning 2 x week. I find glutes best, quads really hurt me, but everyone is different. I am bot sure if you can pin lower quad??? Generally standard practice is up high.

    7. Does HCG make a considerable difference to recovery? Both in time and reducing risk of permanent shut down. Those who have done cycles with and without HCG, do you think it is worth it or is the difference negligible in the grand scheme of things? GET HCG IF YOU CAN! big diff in recovery!

    8. On my dbol cycle I noticed faster/slightly thicker growth of facial hair and I can't be sure but I have sporadic hairs on my back that I'm almost certain wern't there a year ago. Would a test cycle potentially cause these symptoms to progress? Possibly, everyone is diff. These are the risks you have to be comfortable with taking

    I would prefer answers from guys who have experience in what I have asked. Thanks in advance.
    Answers above in bold. Hope that helps a little. Others may like to chime in. Some things you just cant know and so you'll find out as you try your first cycle. That's why test only is recommend before adding other compounds. When you actually do your first cycle, you'll learn things from a whole new perspective about what to do and how your body reacts. Do heaps of research (as you are and make sure you are comfortable with the risks - there are always risks.

    Good luck

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    Okay thanks for your input. Is there anyone else willing to chip in with some answers/insights?

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