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    30yr old Maiden AAS Voyage Q's

    Hey peeps, Pretty sure this is my first post, but i've been a very long time researcher and lurker.
    Myself (Age 30) and my workout buddy (age 31) both similar stats are just planning our first cycle. Im Just looking for some solid advice on a few things having never run a cycle, i've armed myself with months and months of research but its still a bit of a dive into the unknown, on how my body reacts, actually pinning myself, dosing etc etc
    My Basic stats at the moment: 186cm tall (roughly 6'1") 86kg (roughly 190lbs) bodpod BodyFat reading was 10.2%. Id consider myself pretty lean.
    My diet is clean year round even when naturally bulking. Diet is pretty down pat. I log workouts and aim for clean high calorie targets. Been working out seriously for a few years now, before then was just occasionally due to high volume of training for a certain sport. I'd say im borderline ectomorph - mesomorph. Lastly Ive got the full list of what to get tested when I do my bloods pre-cycle for safety.

    Now my questions on our proposed cycles are-
    Test Enanthate Weeks 1-12 500mg p/w (2 x 250mg)
    My buddy is suggesting we front load Dbol weeks 1-4 30mg/day but im thinking and from what I gather we should stick to test-e only for our first cycle? good idea?
    Gyno- we are planning to use liquidex/armidex (which ever we can get at the time) so is it best to use it regardless or only when you feel signs of gyno? and dosing 0.25mg ed? or 0.5mg eod? Or alternatively would we be better to ditch the Armidex for Nolvadex weeks 1-18 10-20mg/day like ive seen suggested for first time cyclers before?
    Also i'm wondering about HCG, is it worthwhile including this in our cycle or not worry about stacking too many compounds in the first cycle? and for dosing is this correct - HCG Weeks 2-14 500iu p/w?
    And most importantly for PCT: This is where Ive done the most research but can always use more advice.
    Weeks 14-18 (or 19?) training hard as possible at highest of intensity for shorter workout times. While maintaining large calorie intake to keep gains.
    Clomid 100/100/50/50/(50?)
    Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/(20?)

    Thanks in advance to anyone who offers advice.

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    Good to see someone thats ready to cycle and has done proper research...

    Go with the .25 EOD Adex (thats my opninion, others may say wait until needed), you can up that to ED if needed and again if needed to .5ED

    Dbol: 50/50 yay or nah, flip a coin lol

    HCG: I always suggest on cycle, you could run from the start or 2-14 would be fine, 2 x 250iu per week

    PCT looks good, you shouldnt need the 5th week but could add it if yo ufelt the need.

    You should start a log, good luck mate

    Gonzo

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    gonzo: Thanks for the reply champ, will definitely be starting a log fairly soon once the proposed cycle is all sorted and good to go.
    Last edited by Povlo; 07-01-2012 at 07:27 AM. Reason: typo

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    The other Q, is Aromasin a better choice of AI than Armidex?

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    Cant help you I only use L-Dex

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    Gonzo has pretty much covered my questions, tho anyone else want to share some knowledge? Cheers

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    bump up

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    What else do you need to know?

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    pct would start week 15 not 14.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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