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    new member first cycle am i ready?

    ok guys just hoping to get some feedback looking at starting my very first cycle in about a weeks time hopefully done everything and have everything i need
    had bloodwork done a week ago everything looks good
    week 1-12 test e 500mg pinned 2x per week 250mg each mon and thurs
    week 1-4 dbol 20mg tabs everyday
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    week 14-16 clomid 100mg everyday first week 50 mg everyday next 2 weeks
    week 14-16 nolvadex 20mg everyday

    this is all that im doing if i have left anything out or should change anything please let me know thankyou

    age 24 training for 5 years 5 foot 11 90kgs 11%bf ish

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    I don't think your ready. You don't even know how old you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
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    age 24 training for 5 years 5 foot 11 90kgs 11%bf ish

    I don't think your ready. You don't even know how old you are.
    hahaha oops i just joined today must of filled it out wrong ill change it

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    Diet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by castiron View Post
    Diet?
    dont eat the exact same things everyday but the basic foods i eat are
    chicken tuna kangaroo egg whites protein shakes veggies sweet potato brown rice oatmeal nuts
    6 meals a day

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    What are kangaroo eggs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-g View Post
    What are kangaroo eggs?
    lol kangaroo and egg whites
    advice anyone??

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    go to the nutrition section and DETAIL your everyday diet. Including your tdee and macros.

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    How can you fill out your information wrong? You might have, but so many people use that excuse. If you are indeed twenty two, just man up and wait until you are twenty four or twenty five.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyz
    lol kangaroo and egg whites
    advice anyone??
    No!!!!!! Your not ready. If you don't even know what an AI is, your far from ready. Not to mention you lied about your age and who knows what else. Hit the nutrition section.

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    im 24 current macros are 330g protein... 380g carbs... 50g fat... 55g fibre

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-g View Post
    No!!!!!! Your not ready. If you don't even know what an AI is, your far from ready. Not to mention you lied about your age and who knows what else. Hit the nutrition section.
    Agreed. I'm not saying I am ready to cycle - I don't plan on it until I'm twenty four or twenty five. But even I know what an AI is and, sadly, I probably know more than most people my age who decide to jump on the juice. It's really sad to be honest. I'm learning new things every day so hopefully by the time I am ready everything will be set and perfect in order to minimize the risks and increase the benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyz
    im 24 current macros are 330g protein... 380g carbs... 50g fat... 55g fibre
    I call bs. On this. 330 grams of protein. How many shakes are you drinking? Try posting EVERYTHING that went in your mouth today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-g View Post
    I call bs. On this. 330 grams of protein. How many shakes are you drinking? Try posting EVERYTHING that went in your mouth today.
    wow never meant to get such heated replys lol but ill tell you what i ate yesterday since today is just starting
    meal 1 eggy whites 500g oatmeal 100g
    meal 2 shake 50g protein brown rice 50g veggies
    meal 3 chicken 250g raw weight brown rich 150g
    meal 4 chicken 250g pasta 150g veggies
    meal 5 kangaroo 250g raw weight brown rice 100g nuts 30g
    meal 6 chicken 250g veggies

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    Most people that take in that much protein get it from shakes which are a waste. 1 or 2 maybe but guys drinking them as meal replacement. Is crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-g View Post
    Most people that take in that much protein get it from shakes which are a waste. 1 or 2 maybe but guys drinking them as meal replacement. Is crap.
    yer i usually only have 1.. 2 if i cant be stuffed cooking
    anyway im not planning on starting my cyc yet going to do some research on ai.. anything else you think i should read up on?

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    I hate chicken!

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-g View Post
    Most people that take in that much protein get it from shakes which are a waste. 1 or 2 maybe but guys drinking them as meal replacement. Is crap.
    Certain jobs dont allow alot of body-sculptors to eat 6-8 whole food meals a day. With these 110 degree days down here, I dont want to eat anything. A protein shake is about the only thing I can handle woring out in the heat. Weekends, I am all about whole food sources when I have the time to prepare some good eats.

    On a side note, I purchased a carton on all egg whites to mix into my protein shakes and add 4 eggs worth per 2 shakes, Equals out to roughly 3 protien meals that is considered whole food being egg whites. Just an idea I tried to get more whole foods in a little easier and faster.
    Last edited by warmouth; 07-02-2012 at 10:14 PM. Reason: side note

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    Id read all the stickies and educational threads I could if your gonna do it your age. The longer it takes to learn everything you can the better off you'll be. Even if you were 30, I'd say the same thing cuz its not wise to start injecting black market products or phrama grade for that
    matter in to your body if you don't have all the info you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth
    Certain jobs dont allow alot of body-sculptors to eat 6-8 whole food meals a day. With these 110 degree days down here, I dont want to eat anything. A protein shake is about the only thing I can handle woring out in the heat. Weekends, I am all about whole food sources when I have the time to prepare some good eats.
    That's fine but just know that your not getting quality nutrients. Caloric intake wise yes. Quality protein, carbs, fats,..... No, you need to eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-g View Post
    Id read all the stickies and educational threads I could if your gonna do it your age. The longer it takes to learn everything you can the better off you'll be. Even if you were 30, I'd say the same thing cuz its not wise to start injecting black market products or phrama grade for that
    matter in to your body if you don't have all the info you can.
    thanks man will do.. im thinking i might hire a online coach as well better safe then sorry i guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth
    I hate chicken!
    Fish, beef, pork, veggies. Etc........... The list goes on and on.

    Ps don't hijack his thread. Might wanna start your own in the nutrition section. Just saying.

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    Your gonna want to run an AI like arimidex at 0.5mg eod or .25 Ed starting 3rd week of your cycle. I would take 40 mg dbol everyday for your jump start.

    The ai keeps your estrogen level in check thus reducing unwanted sides like bloat and acne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-g View Post
    That's fine but just know that your not getting quality nutrients. Caloric intake wise yes. Quality protein, carbs, fats,..... No, you need to eat.
    As of right now with my schedule in this heat, I went from cooking 6oz chicken, 5 jumbo shrimp, 4 boiled eggs, almonds, PBholdtheJ and 2 shakes.
    Since the heat, at home 2 cups oatmeal, 4 scrammbled eggs, whole milk. couple hours out, 1-30 gr protien shake, few hours later 1 shake with egg whites included, protien bar and some almonds. I can eat cold rice and lentils, but not a huge fan of either cold. The good stuff happens post workout though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GorillaNuts
    Your gonna want to run an AI like arimidex at 0.5mg eod or .25 Ed starting 3rd week of your cycle. I would take 40 mg dbol everyday for your jump start.

    The ai keeps your estrogen level in check thus reducing unwanted sides like bloat and acne.
    Gorilla, keep in mind this would be his first and it's more advisable to stick to 1 compound to see how your body handles it. I'd save the Dbol for your next. Plus I think it's wiser to start the adex at .25 eod a s to not kill your estrogen. Can alway increase. If needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GorillaNuts View Post
    Your gonna want to run an AI like arimidex at 0.5mg eod or .25 Ed starting 3rd week of your cycle. I would take 40 mg dbol everyday for your jump start.

    The ai keeps your estrogen level in check thus reducing unwanted sides like bloat and acne.
    thanks for the info mate im guessing the anti estrogens that are sold in supplement shops arnt strong enough right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-g View Post
    Ps don't hijack his thread. Might wanna start your own in the nutrition section. Just saying.
    Why not? You did. I just stated an obvious that that guys daily intake was a chicen graveyard. I hate chicken after 1 piece that I cant even finish, unless rolled into a taco!

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyz

    thanks for the info mate im guessing the anti estrogens that are sold in supplement shops arnt strong enough right?
    Right. Check out ar-r . They are a sponsor and have quality. Liquidex is adex. Which is an AI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-g View Post
    Right. Check out ar-r. They are a sponsor and have quality. Liquidex is adex. Which is an AI.
    awesome cheers last thing.. im guessing its illegal so any issues with ordering it online from that site customs etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth
    Why not? You did. I just stated an obvious that that guys daily intake was a chicen graveyard. I hate chicken after 1 piece that I cant even finish, unless rolled into a taco!
    I did not take over his thread by jumping in and asking random food questions. That was you. I was giving my input as to how,why/why not, when etc he should cycle. After all that is what the op asked right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyz
    awesome cheers last thing.. im guessing its illegal so any issues with ordering it online from that site customs etc?
    No source talk on open boards. Check local laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-g View Post
    Most people that take in that much protein get it from shakes which are a waste. 1 or 2 maybe but guys drinking them as meal replacement. Is crap.
    Papa I have one whey in the morning (along with egg whites and oats) and another post workout (along with a combination of dextrose and maltodextrin) and then a casein before bed. Is this too much in your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharmabrah

    Papa I have one whey in the morning (along with egg whites and oats) and another post workout (along with a combination of dextrose and maltodextrin) and then a casein before bed. Is this too much in your opinion?
    First. Pls start your thread. Thss one is for a guy looking for cycle advise. Second. No. I don't thik it's to much. I like 1 am. 1 post w/o. And I like the casein before bed during bulking. But truthfully. IMO the casein is more $$ and not a huge benefit over regular whey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-g View Post
    First. Pls start your thread. Thss one is for a guy looking for cycle advise. Second. No. I don't thik it's to much. I like 1 am. 1 post w/o. And I like the casein before bed during bulking. But truthfully. IMO the casein is more $$ and not a huge benefit over regular whey.
    Sorry and thanks.

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    arr products are legal for research use in the US, as far as i know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castiron
    arr products are legal for research use in the US, as far as i know.
    Yeah my pet mice live the $hit.

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