Need help because I just found out that Deca was not good for the first cycle.

**gladiatorrivera** · 07-04-2012, 11:57 PM

Hi guys, I have been lifting for three years since I was 18 years old. I thought this cycle stack is good for bulking.

Ok here the info what I had been taking....

I just started doing this since last week tuesday (june 29). last time was yesertday (july 3). Probably 600 mg of Test e and deca durabolin in my body now. I plan to do this for 12 weeks.

Test E 600 mg a week, 2 pins of 300 mg tuesday and friday
Deca Durabolin 600 mg a week, 2 pins of 300 mg tuesday and friday

I have decided to stop taking Deca Durabolin because I heard it was bad for the first cycle and will cause the dysfunction of sexual drive.

I did some research and they said that I should take PCT asap but some of them say that I can continue with Test E but stop taking Deca Durabolin now. Other say its fine as long as I take Pct in two weeks after the last use of both steroids .

**Simon1972** · 07-05-2012, 12:20 AM

drop the deca asap, keep on the test until you get your hands on PCT.

you are playing with fire without doing your research son.

What is your planned PCT?

**MuscleInk** · 07-05-2012, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by gladiatorrivera

Hi guys, I have been lifting for three years since I was 18 years old. I thought this cycle stack is good for bulking.

Ok here the info what I had been taking....

I just started doing this since last week tuesday (june 29). last time was yesertday (july 3). Probably 600 mg of Test e and deca durabolin in my body now. I plan to do this for 12 weeks.

Test E 600 mg a week, 2 pins of 300 mg tuesday and friday
Deca Durabolin 600 mg a week, 2 pins of 300 mg tuesday and friday

I have decided to stop taking Deca Durabolin because I heard it was bad for the first cycle and will cause the dysfunction of sexual drive.

I did some research and they said that I should take PCT asap but some of them say that I can continue with Test E but stop taking Deca Durabolin now. Other say its fine as long as I take Pct in two weeks after the last use of both steroids.

This is exactly why the vets on this forum keep telling you younger guys to leave the junk alone. Someone tells you that steroids are the answer and you pick up a needle and start jacking your shit up without knowing anything about which AASs to use, which to stack, cycle lengths, risks, side effects, PCTs, nutritional plans to sustain gains, etc.

Drop the gear, get your nutrition in check, and hope you haven't caused any long term damage. Use this forum and the wisdom of guys who have been training for years, developed the best nutrition and training programs, and learn everything you can.

When you're ready for gear (at least 25 or older) you'll know AND you'll have the wisdom to plan safe cycles and maintain gains without risking your life.

I know that's not what you want to hear but heed the advice of guys on this forum with the experience to put you on the path to success.

**btern** · 07-05-2012, 12:55 AM

^^^^^ agree with muscleink!!

**Bigherm21** · 07-05-2012, 01:15 AM

Ya the cycle you were doing is for a more advanced user!! The first thing one must do before doing anything is research. Research is the most important thing. You have to know how aas effects your body, know what you should do, and how much. I'm a frequent browser on a few different boards and we see young kids that just want to pin away. They're doing damage to themselves and they don't even know it. It's from a lack of research. A few days of searching and reading can accomplish a lot. Too many guys pin first then ask for advice after when they have issues. This is your lively hood not your car. We as users know the risks but we may not have trouble untill later in life. Make being a user as safe as possible so you can live a long healthy life.

The media for one hears about people hurting themselves all the time and do.not know why. It's just blamed on aas. Most of the time the user didn't take care of there self which caused them issues. It's those type of guys that give aas a bad name.

**gladiatorrivera** · 07-05-2012, 01:25 AM

are you telling me that I made BIG mistake?? is it too late to fix up? Where can I check up the info that will help me back to normal body.

**gladiatorrivera** · 07-05-2012, 01:25 AM

I want to stick with test e but do i still need to do Pct soon? when?

**Bigherm21** · 07-05-2012, 01:38 AM

Pct is normally ran after the cycle. Do you have any idea what you want to run in pct? What about an ai? You need to know this stuff. You should stop now before your completely shutdown. Your age for one is no good. Your hormones aren't matured yet which can cause damage to yourself. You need to know this stuff. Pct, and ai information is all over these boards and a simple Google search as well.

**Capebuffalo** · 07-05-2012, 05:45 AM

Your 19 Stop what you are doing

**Capebuffalo** · 07-05-2012, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Your 19 Stop what you are doing

Swear it said 19 this morning. Now it says 21. Still too young

**fit2bOld** · 07-05-2012, 07:33 AM

To young buddy, Get over to the pct section and read the stickies, all the info you need to recover is there.
At 25 with lots of good training under your belt with a clean diet maybe then a Test only cycle.

**gladiatorrivera** · 07-05-2012, 09:49 AM

I will continue doing with TEST E cycle only. 600 mg per week. Once I finished with 12 weeks of TEST E, then I will do PCT after the few weeks from the last injection of test e. I think I don't need to recover myself for Deca because I don't see any side effect yet. lets hope I don't get any side effect from Deca Durabolin . I just put deca durabolin away. Never take that ever again lol. I want bulking myself faster before going back to college this sept. Thats why I took deca and test e but I just realized that Deca is not good for the first cycle. so any suggestion? Test e only will be fine?

**Ares101** · 07-05-2012, 10:02 AM

At your age none of its fine but what is your post cycle plans? Like what are you going to run?

**gladiatorrivera** · 07-05-2012, 10:10 AM

PCt=

Clomid 50/50/50/50

Nolva 40/40/20/20

Stats 5'11" 175-180 lb 21

1) Does this sound correct ?

2) How much should I expect to gain ? ( I eat healthy and get plenty of protein)

3) How much will I keep?

4) When should I take them? two weeks after twelves weeks of test e?

Thanks in advance

**chrisdog212** · 07-05-2012, 11:12 AM

Listen to what their saying!
Drop the cycle take you're pct and get your diet in check.
Your not eating enough if you don't think your gaining anymore weight.
Your not short and from the sounds of it you have plenty more space to fill in weight wise!

**gixxerboy1** · 07-05-2012, 11:14 AM

honestly i say 2 months after you stop injecting you are back to 175-180
you dont know how anything works.
Your worried about sexual sides. You realize running a cycle can cause that permanently after you stop wright?

**gladiatorrivera** · 07-05-2012, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by chrisdog212

Listen to what their saying!
Drop the cycle take you're pct and get your diet in check.
Your not eating enough if you don't think your gaining anymore weight.
Your not short and from the sounds of it you have plenty more space to fill in weight wise!

Listen to who? You said I should drop the cycle. What are you talking about? Are you telling me that I should drop Test E too? I think Test E is the most safest drug and good for a beginner. As long as I will take PCT

**trschnei** · 07-05-2012, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by gladiatorrivera

Listen to who? You said I should drop the cycle. What are you talking about? Are you telling me that I should drop Test E too? I think Test E is the most safest drug and good for a beginner. As long as I will take PCT

most safest?....

**Capebuffalo** · 07-05-2012, 12:04 PM

Are you just now reading the responses? Everyone has told you to stop. Stop everything. Run a pct

**Ares101** · 07-05-2012, 12:10 PM

Yea man you need to even drop the test e... And start your pct

**gladiatorrivera** · 07-05-2012, 12:39 PM

alright i will stop taking these. I am so sad because i have to give up test e too. are you sure that I need to stop taking both? If so, can you give me the link about PCT schedule that I should start. Guys, I appreciate the help.