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    Questions before starting second cycle

    Hello,
    I am getting ready to start my second cycle but I wanted to post it up first and get some feedback on it. Please let me know if you think it's good or if I should change/adjust anything.
    I have done one previous cycle: Sustanon for 12 weeks (250 every 3 days), with anavar for the last 6 weeks (60mg/day). I finished that with PCT 3 weeks after last pin.

    My Stats: 5' 11" tall, 210lbs, 29 years old, about 9% body fat, and I have been weight training for over 12 years.

    Please let me know what you think of this cycle:

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    Looks well planned out. If I were in your shoes, I'd keep the AI pre-PCT. I like the benefits it serves me while "on". I wouldn't really spend the money on EQ, especially at that dose. I ran it once at 800mg PW and it improved my overall endurance during my training and cardio session. It's anabolic properties were masked by the parent hormone easily though. Is that 500iu on the HCG per week? Compliment this cycle with some blood panels pre and post cycle to ensure recovery.

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    HawaiianPride: Thank you for the prompt response, I really do appreciate it. Just a couple questions:
    1) So you are saying I should run the Aromasin weeks 1-12, is this correct? Is there no point in running it past the cycle and through the PCT? Is it not common for estrogen levels to raise during PCT, if so would the Aromasin not help combat this?
    2) I already have the EQ. I actually have more than needed, should I increase the dose or just not use it at all? If I increase the dose of EQ should I also increase the Test E?
    In my last cycle (and first cycle) I pinned Sustanon 250 once every 3 days. I didn't really notice much results from it. In fact I really didn't notice anything until about the 6th week (which was when I added Anavar into the mix).
    I was thinking I should stay at just the 500/week of Test since it's only my second cycle but what do you think? I have been through numerous supplements and pro hormones over the years I have been training. Based on my stats do you think I should increase my dosage or not?
    Thank you again for your help!

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    Yes, the HCG is 500iu per week, 250 on Wed and 250 on Sun (same days as the Test and EQ). Should I do it like this or split them apart. What if I pinned the Test on Wed and Sun, the EQ on Thur and Mon, and the HCG on Fri and Tues? Or does it not make any difference?
    Also, I will point out that the week after the cycle contains 2000iu HCG, 500 on Wed, Fri, Sun, and Tues. I planned this because I read that it made transitioning into PCT much smoother. What are your thoughts on this?

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    Ever think about doing Tbol instead of Dbol so you don't get the bloat

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    Quote Originally Posted by bumblebee187 View Post
    HawaiianPride: Thank you for the prompt response, I really do appreciate it. Just a couple questions:
    1) So you are saying I should run the Aromasin weeks 1-12, is this correct? Is there no point in running it past the cycle and through the PCT? Is it not common for estrogen levels to raise during PCT, if so would the Aromasin not help combat this? Exe will serve it's benefits during PCT, this is just what I do personally. I feel tamox will keep E-levels under control though. You can go both ways brother.
    2) I already have the EQ. I actually have more than needed, should I increase the dose or just not use it at all? If I increase the dose of EQ should I also increase the Test E? Run it if you have it. It won't negate any benefits that's forsure.
    In my last cycle (and first cycle) I pinned Sustanon 250 once every 3 days. I didn't really notice much results from it. In fact I really didn't notice anything until about the 6th week (which was when I added Anavar into the mix).
    I was thinking I should stay at just the 500/week of Test since it's only my second cycle but what do you think? I have been through numerous supplements and pro hormones over the years I have been training. Based on my stats do you think I should increase my dosage or not? Keep it @ 500mg IMO. The less you can get away with while still receiving gains, the better.
    Thank you again for your help!
    thereyougo*

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    Quote Originally Posted by bumblebee187 View Post
    Yes, the HCG is 500iu per week, 250 on Wed and 250 on Sun (same days as the Test and EQ). Should I do it like this or split them apart. What if I pinned the Test on Wed and Sun, the EQ on Thur and Mon, and the HCG on Fri and Tues? Or does it not make any difference?
    Also, I will point out that the week after the cycle contains 2000iu HCG, 500 on Wed, Fri, Sun, and Tues. I planned this because I read that it made transitioning into PCT much smoother. What are your thoughts on this?
    1. Won't make a difference.
    2. HCG will provide a better foundation for your SERMS to kick ass. You heard correct.

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    BlueWaffle21: I have never tried either. I did read that the EQ will help combat water retention and give you harder gains, so would the EQ help against that anyway?

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