First cycle, need some advice.

[asquarecan]

Hey guys,

I am new here and did some searching and still have some questions. I picked up 20ml of Nandroxyl and 5ml of Deca 500 This was recommended by someone I was talking to so I am hoping this is an ok start. I just don't know the best way to start. If I should use one prior to the other or stack them together and if so at what CC should the stack be.

I am 5'7 155lb 12%BF and Looking to be closer to 175-185lb at 10-12%BF I know I am probably forgetting some info.

Thanks for any help!

[Capebuffalo]

You can achieve that with a proper diet and training. Use the nutrition section. You will be surprised.

[MuscleInk]

You can achieve that with a proper diet and training. Use the nutrition section. You will be surprised.

CB is right:

1. Diet
2. Training

Most guys claim to have their nutrition dialed in. Few really do. If your nutrition is poor, you will never have sustainable gains no matter what gear you use. Diet IS everything and needs to be perfected first.

[asquarecan]

My diet is not perfect, but it is not too bad. I am working on it daily to improve. I have a rare thyroid disease that makes it very difficult to put on weight regardless to diet intake, which is why I looked into getting some gear to see if I could get the results I want. I work as hard as anyone in the gym and push myself as hard as I possibly can everyday I am there and it just gets irritating when I do not see the gains I feel I deserve. So I am just looking for a leg up.

[sharmabrah]

If you are working hard in the gym then the most probable reason you are not gaining is you are not eating to the size you want to be. Diet and training - the two things you need right now.

[gixxerboy1]

how old are you
no deca is not good for a first cycle at all
deca only cycle is bad also.
start reading the educational threads up top.
also you need to learn about pct.
but please do not take what you have

[asquarecan]

how old are you
no deca is not good for a first cycle at all
deca only cycle is bad also.
start reading the educational threads up top.
also you need to learn about pct.
but please do not take what you have

I am reading up to learn more before I start. You feel the Nandroxyl is a bad thing as well? I have heard good things about it.

[gixxerboy1]

nandroxyl is deca.

[asquarecan]

hmmm, well now I need to figure out what I am going to do. Limited on what I can get so I will have to talk with him some more and see what my options are. Would you advice this safe during a second cycle or is it something I do not need?

Thanks

[gixxerboy1]

yes you could add it for a 2nd cycle but you still cant run deca alone on any cycle

[gixxerboy1]

BTW, never look to your source for advice. Remember they are your dealer. They have $$ not your well being on their mind. Do your research here then tell him what you want

[MuscleInk]

BTW, never look to your source for advice. Remember they are your dealer. They have $$ not your well being on their mind. Do your research here then tell him what you want

Lol....ya that's like asking the cigarette manufacturers if you should smoke more or less.

[gixxerboy1]

he cant get test?
all those things you mentioned shouldn't be used alone.
Test is the base of any cycle and should be the only thing used on a first cycle

[asquarecan]

So I got a call and he said has 10 vials of Testo-E 1250 is this product any good? The price seems good. Just want to make sure before I get it.

Thanks

[gixxerboy1]

Do you mean test e 250?
If so yes, thats fine.

[asquarecan]

Testo-E 500 (2ml)
Manufacturer: **********
Substance: Testosterone Enanthate
Pack: 2 ml vial (250 mg/ml)

This is what he sent me.

[gixxerboy1]

please edit out the lab name

yes those would be fine. You would need 12 of them

[asquarecan]

Sorry about that!

Thanks for the advice! 12 will get me a 10 week cycle? Also if kept cool how long is the shelf life on test? Thinking about getting more then I need so I dont have to worry about getting it later.

Thanks

[gixxerboy1]

no a 12 week cycle. use 2 a week. it would last years.

[asquarecan]

So I will be taking 2ml a week or 4ml a week?

Thanks

[gixxerboy1]

im sorry, typo. 1 a week 2 injections.

[asquarecan]

Thank for you for the quick response! You have been a great help and re-leaved some of my early frustration.

[asquarecan]

I wasn't thinking about it last night, but I was thinking about only using 1cc a week is that going to be too low of a dose? I have no problem taking 2cc I am in no hurry to get big so that's why I was thinking 1cc.

Thanks again

[gixxerboy1]

you can do what ever you like. take 1 take 1 and a half.
I still wouldnt start, you still need an ai and pct.
I would also get a new diet worked out

[asquarecan]

I am currently using Max Tribustak and Max Anabol, both are test boosters with an Estrogen blocker in them would these work or would you recommend something else?

Also I will look into PCT need to figure out which one I need.

Keith