Cycle advice

[>Good Luck<]

Hey guys, just preparing for a cycle and trying to iron out some ideas. I plan to pin 250mg 2x per week of test cyp for 10 weeks. I will be ordering liquidex, nolvadex and clomi from ar-r but inhad a thought. Ive never run an ai before, only done one cycle and did It the wrong way. Pct was weak. No ai. This time I want to maximize the potential and cause my body less stress. I have read that .5mg eod of dex is a good start point and to begin first day of pinning. I've also read that you can shut down all estrogen if you e2 is already low or not yet elevated.

Would it be beneficial to wait a week or 2 before starting the ai? I am using a long ester test, so wouldn't aromatase take longer to happen than if i were to use prop?


Also can I get away without hcg? I can get it but I don't want to pin all kinds as I'm still new and a bit Shakey/ uncomfortable pinning a lot. Also don't quite understand the stuff yet or how to inject. Sub q? Wtf is that? Lol

Thanks in advance

[Papa-pwn]

I like to start the AI the same day as my first pin, at least with cyp and Enanthate. Some prefer to start one earlier than the other, but with a long ester test I think same time is fine.

Hcg is not an absolute necessity, but it is very helpful. I'd get it if you can.

back to the adex, .5mg EOD might be a little much, but it really depends on the person. I've found that .15mg ED is what works for me. It takes a bit of trial and error, and maybe a blood test or two to really know what dosage works best for you and your body. Best of luck!

[>Good Luck<]

I like to start the AI the same day as my first pin, at least with cyp and Enanthate. Some prefer to start one earlier than the other, but with a long ester test I think same time is fine.

Hcg is not an absolute necessity, but it is very helpful. I'd get it if you can.

back to the adex, .5mg EOD might be a little much, but it really depends on the person. I've found that .15mg ED is what works for me. It takes a bit of trial and error, and maybe a blood test or two to really know what dosage works best for you and your body. Best of luck!

Thanks for the response. I'm not sure why I wrote .5 eod what I meant to say was .25 eod and go from there. I guess my theory might be loose saying because t takes 2 weeks or more to kick in that e levels wouldn't raise until then? Hm. Any other opinions or rationale? Anyone?

[songdog]

.25 is wat most people do.But to really max out on your cycle.Post your diet w/macros in the diet section.That can really make your cycle.

[< <Samson> >]

Get juiced! lol . .

Cyp seems a little week for 2nd cycle for 10 weeks. It's a long ass ester which will delay your PCT. . . If you wanna a do a test only cycle: Get some prop and run it for 8 weeks EOD, run Stane at like .5cc(25mg) EOD, then get the usual clomid & nolva for PCT.


Unless you want a nice fat cycle with some Deca or some NPP(I am still considering NPP for cycle #2.

[>Good Luck<]

Get juiced! lol . .

Cyp seems a little week for 2nd cycle for 10 weeks. It's a long ass ester which will delay your PCT. . . If you wanna a do a test only cycle: Get some prop and run it for 8 weeks EOD, run Stane at like .5cc(25mg) EOD, then get the usual clomid & nolva for PCT.

Unless you want a nice fat cycle with some Deca or some NPP(I am still considering NPP for cycle #2.

Trust me my friend, I wanted to run deca, cyp and dbol but everyone keeps reminding me to keep it simple, slow and steady. I'm experimenting with my body and could potentially be cycling for a long time. If I rush into a complex cycle, I'm sure I'll get some good results, but for now I want to learn how my
Body rebounds from the shutdown, and what ai, pct, etc. R best for me. Cycle # 3 will probably (definitely! ) have deca...by then I will know how to manage sides, and how to keep my levels stable to a degree.

As for prop and npp, I'm still to inexperienced to be pinning that much. I can't pin my own glutes as yet and I hate pinning quads. My gear is smooth but I work on my feet 8hours a day so any pip is torture. My delts take Monday injections and quads on Thursday for a good rotation. Recovering from a bad injection spot is easier over the weekend when I don't have physical obligations. I've bee thinking about using prop at the last 2 weeks just like you did for a faster pct, but can't get any info on that method

[< <Samson> >]

I never got PIP even with prop after the first 2-3 shots.

I know, keep it simple. . . I am too. but the other shit sounds good

Prop for 8 weeks sounds just better than 12 weeks then wait 2 to start PCT. That is 14 weeks of potentially being shut down. Almost double the prop, but longer is better since you are juiced longer. But, recovery isn't so grand. . . I think with shorter cycles it might be easier.