Should I start taking Nolvadex now?

**BigM2012** · 07-09-2012, 09:29 PM

So I made a rookie mistake (a big one) by not including something like arimidex in my cycle to reduce estro side effects, can I use Nolvadex instead? I'm only on my first week of cycle (500mgs Test-E for 12Wks/50mgs T-bol ED 5Wks). I had just about enough nolvadex and clomid for my PCT. Any recommendations? I doubt I could get my hands on any adex or more nolvadex anytime soon. If it's too risky and I should drop the cycle that's fine by me, probably better to do it now than a few weeks in.

AD · 07-09-2012, 09:34 PM

you can get liquidex from arr. should arrive within a wk. you can start the AI then. 1-2wk delay won't cause any serious problems. taking AI is better than taking nolva on cycle.

**warmouth** · 07-09-2012, 09:58 PM

How long does it take for the liquidex to get rid of the gyno normally?

AD · 07-09-2012, 10:04 PM

AI on cycle is for gyno prevention. if gyno is already starting, you'll need both AI and nolva for treatment. success of gyno reversal depends on size of gyno and dose of drugs used.

**warmouth** · 07-09-2012, 10:10 PM

Cool. So having gyno is really not an issue as long as you are prepared. I figured the boob would last quite along time.

AD · 07-09-2012, 10:12 PM

if its small and new, might be reversible.

if its big and old... surgery may be the only way.

**lovbyts** · 07-09-2012, 10:13 PM

We need more details please. What happened? Did you get gyno already? Are you sure? What are the symptoms? What is your aas experience?

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**BigM2012** · 07-10-2012, 12:05 PM

actually guys I've decided to drop the cycle. Is a full PCT (Nolva and Clomid) necessary? only done 1 shot 250mgs of test e and three days of T-bol (50mgs ED).

**BigM2012** · 07-10-2012, 05:24 PM

bump

AD · 07-10-2012, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by BigM2012

actually guys I've decided to drop the cycle. Is a full PCT (Nolva and Clomid) necessary? only done 1 shot 250mgs of test e and three days of T-bol (50mgs ED).

May be too little to require a pct. Eat well and train hard and check bloodwork is 2 months just to be sure everything is fine. Good luck

**BigM2012** · 07-10-2012, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by asiandude

May be too little to require a pct. Eat well and train hard and check bloodwork is 2 months just to be sure everything is fine. Good luck

Thanks man, will do. Hopefully won't have any issues, I'll keep an eye out. How long do you guys think it would take for this stuff to be out of my system? only reason i'm kind of worried is because I'm noticing acne starting on my forehead, I never had issues with acne before, it's minor at the moment though, hopefully it won't get any worse.

AD · 07-10-2012, 07:14 PM

once you stop the drugs, the sides will decrease or subside completely. test e takes 2wks to clear the system. tbol, a few days at the most.

**kingjames6** · 01-20-2013, 10:18 PM

Hey warmouth, I am having problems with puffiness and a little sensitivity, would aromasin be good for that?

**MuscleInk** · 01-20-2013, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by kingjames6

Hey warmouth, I am having problems with puffiness and a little sensitivity, would aromasin be good for that?

What's your cycle and are you using an AI?

**kingjames6** · 01-20-2013, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

What's your cycle and are you using an AI?

Hey muscle I was doing Epistane.

Week 1: 30mg
Week 2: 45mg
Week 3: 45mg
Week 4: 45mg
Week 5: 45mg
Week 6: 45mg

For Pct was liquid Toremifene.

Week 1: 100
Week 2: 80
Week 3: 60
Week 4: 40

**kingjames6** · 01-20-2013, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

What's your cycle and are you using an AI?

Odd thing is, I got the soreness and the puffiness about 2 months after cycle. I have always had a problem with puffier than normal nipples but I have never had soreness.

**MuscleInk** · 01-20-2013, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by kingjames6

Hey muscle I was doing Epistane.

Week 1: 30mg
Week 2: 45mg
Week 3: 45mg
Week 4: 45mg
Week 5: 45mg
Week 6: 45mg

For Pct was liquid Toremifene.

Week 1: 100
Week 2: 80
Week 3: 60
Week 4: 40

Have you had a hormone panel with E2 sensitive assay done? Epistane is supposed to block E2 receptor sites and be gyno friendly (i.e. isn't supposed to promote gyno).

Are you experiencing puffiness and swelling or any hard lumps?

**kingjames6** · 01-21-2013, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Have you had a hormone panel with E2 sensitive assay done? Epistane is supposed to block E2 receptor sites and be gyno friendly (i.e. isn't supposed to promote gyno).

Are you experiencing puffiness and swelling or any hard lumps?

I have not had any BW done, I was seeing the cardiologist for something outside of the anabolics and I had BW done on my thyroid and everything was fine there. He did not tell me levels of anything though.

I would say puffiness and swelling. I have had lumps since puberty. I don't think they are getting any worse. I guess I have pubertal gyno. I would say puffiness is the main issue.