My first shot of nebido (testosterone undecanoate)

[Boris the croatian]

Greetings everyone! My name is Boris and I am 23 y/o. This is my first post here and i am pretty excited about all the well based feedback people seem to get regarding steroids. I read all the rules and newbie threads and I hope I don't mess up by asking my questions the wrong way.

A couple of weeks ago after I had my blood work done and after thorough conversation with my doctor about steroid use, he gave me the green light and wrote me a prescription for nebido. according to him this is the latest and most effective testosterone out on the market and it has the benefit of requiring less shots to get the job done because it is a 1000mg/4ml solution. My second shot is scheduled for three more months and right now i'm just sticking to my diet and workout plan and waiting to see what happens.
Now, given all the information that there is out on the web I went ahead and did my fair share of research about this drug and was not able to find solid reviews or information about it other than online pharmacies selling it, the official website (which I don't trust because it is not an independent source), and some threads in some forums which didn't provide what I was looking for.

I don't know if I'm just impatient or too excited about seeing some results but after reading all that I was wondering if this is really as effective as my doctor said it was. Have any of you guys tried this or read about this drug somewhere else? I was thinking of stacking this with other supplements like maybe one of those testosterone boosters just to make sure that I will see good results plus your regular creatine and protein supplements. what do you think about this? Any suggestions, directions or help will be greatly appreciated!

Hope my questions were clear enough. If you need more details just let me know. THANKS!

[Bonaparte]

Just so we're clear, this is for testosterone replacement therapy (and not a bodybuilding cycle), right? Were you naturally deficient in testosterone?

Don't expect huge gains, since it will only give you healthy testosterone levels.

And taking test boosters would be useless, since your natural test production will end shortly anyway.

[Boris the croatian]

My testosterone levels are fine, I don't have any kind of deficiency in that matter. This was given to me with the clear purpose of gaining muscle. The reason I went to the doctor to ask for help (steroids) is because after three years of regular gym sessions i haven't been able to get much gains. My results DID show a vitamin D deficiency which according to my doc might have been the cause of my rather think looks. This is being taken care of with my daily vitamin complex also prescribed by my doc and it is now back to normal levels.

[AcquireMass]

And by doctor you mean source?

[< <Samson> >]

Marcus ? ? ?

Will nebido actually be considered a cycle? This is more of a long term HRT than anything else.

[Bonaparte]

Oh. Then this is just a stupid plan.

[Boris the croatian]

No man i mean doctor like a real legit doctor with its own practice and everything, i moved to chile for work and steroids are legal here.

[Boris the croatian]

Shit man I knew something was wrong, it was too good to be true Is there anything I can add to make it worth the while (and money)?

[< <Samson> >]

Shit man I knew something was wrong, it was too good to be true Is there anything I can add to make it worth the while (and money)?

Not as far as I know. I been researching different steroid profiles for about 6 months now. What I see so far with Nebido is that it is a very slow releasing test. So, this way if you are truly deficient in test it will replenish it and you don't shoot often at all.

[Boris the croatian]

So if this is not going to work, how long do I have to wait to try other stuff since this crap is already in me. Any suggestions for the same situation of not getting significant gains after three years of training?

[< <Samson> >]

I really don't know that one, man. I don't know what will happen if you dump other roids on top of Nebido. It is not a typical steroid used by people.

[marcus300]

You shouldn't be using a trt dose for cycling.

Whats your height, weight, age and how long you been training

[< <Samson> >]

There he is. . .

That is some BS that a Dr. prescribed this.

[Bonaparte]

You could salvage this cycle by adding maybe 300mg of Test E weekly on top of the Nebido for 3 months. That way, you could just start PCT as normal (for Test E) and just count the Nebido as an added ~80mg to your dose.
Just get some Nolva and Clomid for PCT.

[Boris the croatian]

dude, I am dead serious that steroids are legal here in Chile... but think what you wish or look it up for yourself

[< <Samson> >]

dude, I am dead serious that steroids are legal here in Chile... but think what you wish or look it up for yourself

Then why didn't they give you the good shit? Nebido is not a cycle to get bigger.

[Boris the croatian]

5'8, 155, 23, i've been training for three years now

[Boris the croatian]

I don't know i'm not a doctor. He did mention tho that he was going to try this one first because it was my first cycle and because he didnt want me to get all "hulky" overnight (his words not mine).

[Bonaparte]

Then why didn't they give you the good shit? Nebido is not a cycle to get bigger.

Because you can charge a LOT more for Nebido, being there are no generics. His doc was just looking to make a couple of quick Benjamins off some foreign sucker.

[< <Samson> >]

Because you can charge a LOT more for Nebido, being there are no generics. His doc was just looking to make a couple of quick Benjamins.

What horse shit. . . .


I rather be my own Dr at this rate.

[marcus300]

You shouldn't be even using steriods, you need to learn how to eat to grow. Sorry to burst your bubble but you will lose all your gains or you may not even get any because your diet isn't good enough to maintain or grow any new tissue. Your also using the wrong steriod the wrong way.

Stop taking steriods and research diets.

Best of luck

[Boris the croatian]

I do diet well, i even went to one of those nutrition experts. This is not the first time I try to address this issue. steroids were not my first option.

[marcus300]

Steriods won't do anything for you because you don't have a diet to support anymore new tissue than your 155lb, so your wasting time and money. You need to gain some natural weight before starting steriods.

[Boris the croatian]

horse shit indeed, nebido costs almost 150 bucks. and now that you guys mention it im sure it is a hell of a lot more money than what others with better results would cost

[gixxerboy1]

No man i mean doctor like a real legit doctor with its own practice and everything, i moved to chile for work and steroids are legal here.

well your dr is partially right. its great for trt. Complete shit for a cycle.

[marcus300]

You can say horse shit as much as you like it still won't make you gain weight. No matter if it cost $10000 a shot it still won't make you gain weight anyway and your taking a trt dose. Your eating like a 155lb man/woman so your never going to gain any weight.

You come on a steriod site and ask questions from guys who know yet you won't listen!

I cant carry on telling you what your problem is, maybe someone can tell you what you want to hear even though it won't work for you.

[Boris the croatian]

so does the salvage plan suggested by bonaparte seem like a good idea to everyone?

[Boris the croatian]

i am listening to everyone trying to help out here including you. but apparently you are not quite getting me. i diet well i eat a lot and everything but i just have trouble maintaining the weight i gain... maybe i have a high metabolism or something like that

[marcus300]

Your not eating correctly otherwise you would weight more and be able to maintain more mass, its you who isn't getting it. Your wasting your time taking steriods because you will go back to your normal weight afterwards because that's what you eat like.

[< <Samson> >]

^He's right on that for sure^.


Diet is very a very important part of making gains, juice or not. 155 is a bit light for your height.

[wmaousley]

I am puzzled by this thread, wtf is happening?

[Skyrinegt]

Do your three months you paid for but grab some pct and some adex to run during.
Eat like a mad man but clean. 155 means not clean and not enough, my cousin lives off fn Doritos and Oreos and is the same size as you. Your body just shits that out.
Not familiar with nebido but maybe you can add some prop until your three months is up then take pct after your system is clear and then stay off until your atleast 25 and 185

[Honkey_Kong]

i am listening to everyone trying to help out here including you. but apparently you are not quite getting me. i diet well i eat a lot and everything but i just have trouble maintaining the weight i gain... maybe i have a high metabolism or something like that

If you were eating more that maintenance, you'd be gaining some form of weight. Whether it be muscle or fat. Why don't you post your diet with portion sizes and itemized calories and grams of protein for each thing you eat along with the times of each meal. We can help you from here. If you haven't done this, you have no prayer of making gains and steroids will just be risking your health for nothing.

[< <Samson> >]

I am puzzled by this thread, wtf is happening?

He got on HRT without knowing it. . . . Man, I don't want his doc for sure.

[Honkey_Kong]

He got on HRT without knowing it. . . . Man, I don't want his doc for sure.

Not just that. His doctor put him on HRT because he wasn't getting gains in the gym. The doctor didn't take in to account he's 23 nor did he run bloodwork to even check if there was a medical need. This sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. I wonder if they can sue over this out there?

[DanB]

Not just that. His doctor put him on HRT because he wasn't getting gains in the gym. The doctor didn't take in to account he's 23 nor did he run bloodwork to even check if there was a medical need. This sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. I wonder if they can sue over this out there?

I reckon he signed some form of disclaimer and didnt even know it, I wonder ''gifts'' that doc has gotten from Bayer lol

[< <Samson> >]

I wonder if they can sue over this out there?

I doubt it. . . They just prescribe juice or whatever just because they can. Kinda cool, you just need to know what you are getting.

[songdog]

I just love when someone who dont know jack.Asks for advice then wants to argue over the answer.GROW UP!

[John Andrew]

Steroids are legal here as well. the last person to ask for advice is a doctor! They are not trained on the subject anywhere near well enough. My local doc is a nice guy who specializes is sex therapy and does not even know there is more than one type of test! The guys here have learned by experience, and from others. Listen to them! John

[gonzo6183]

i am listening to everyone trying to help out here including you. but apparently you are not quite getting me. i diet well i eat a lot and everything but i just have trouble maintaining the weight i gain... maybe i have a high metabolism or something like that

As stated we can guarantee that this is not true, you DO NOT eat enough and you more than likely dont eat the right foods. I you did you would gain weight, its science plain and simple...