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    my stack...opines??

    Im about to start this stack...give me your thoughts and if you would trade or add anything!

    D-Bol 50mgs/day
    Tren 200 mgs/day
    test susp. 200 mgs/day
    nolvadex 30 mgs/day

    thats a 12 week cycle then ive got PCT of HCG and IGF-1


    any suggestions?

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    what are your stats, goals and cycle experience. Hard to say with out knowing that
    also with those drugs why would you run it for 12 weeks?
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    What is an opine?

    Also, that is one of the most ridiculous cycles I've ever seen.

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    Opine is the verb to give ones opion...and im 6'1 and 200lbs even. about 6% bf and im looking for maybe 10-15 pound gain.

    And ridiculous good or ridiculous bad?

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    im running it for 12 weeks cause ive got enough to do it for that long...ive got enough so i figure why not

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    Quote Originally Posted by beast87 View Post
    Opine is the verb to give ones opion...and im 6'1 and 200lbs even. about 6% bf and im looking for maybe 10-15 pound gain.

    And ridiculous good or ridiculous bad?
    there is no reason to use half those amounts to gain 10 lbs at your stats.
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    He mean ridiculously bad, clearly. Why the **** would you want to use steroids when you are 185CM, almost 100KG and apparently six percent bodyfat? Something smells strange here. What is your age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beast87 View Post
    im running it for 12 weeks cause ive got enough to do it for that long...ive got enough so i figure why not
    the longer you are on especially on doses like that the more harm you do.
    how old are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beast87 View Post
    im running it for 12 weeks cause ive got enough to do it for that long...ive got enough so i figure why not
    So your reasoning for running a longer cycle is "why not". **** sake it is people like this that really do give AAS a bad name. Why would you not want to research?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beast87 View Post
    Opine is the verb to give ones opion...and im 6'1 and 200lbs even. about 6% bf and im looking for maybe 10-15 pound gain.

    And ridiculous good or ridiculous bad?
    So you're looking for an opinion (you know, a noun).
    And I mean ridiculously bad. 1400mg of Tren is unheard of unless you're maybe an IFBB pro.
    And HCG + IGF-1 are not PCT meds. HCG should be used before PCT, and you need a SERM instead of IGF-1 (which isn't going to do much for your HPTA, especially after you rape it with Tren for 12 weeks).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    So you're looking for an opinion (you know, a noun).
    And I mean ridiculously bad. 1400mg of Tren is unheard of unless you're maybe an IFBB pro.
    And HCG + IGF-1 are not PCT meds. HCG should be used before PCT, and you need a SERM instead of IGF-1 (which isn't going to do much for your HPTA, especially after you rape it with Tren for 12 weeks).
    Lol man, I'm only twenty and never cycled before and I could tell him all of this. Reading some of the threads on here really is embarrassing for the human race.

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    im 24 and its not that fishy....thats the minimum i wanna gain. Ive hit a wall with my gains for about a year now and i wanna be about the 215-225llb range. And i have done my research. believe me i have done it, Ive got a masters in biochem and human phys. I know exactly the possible effects. and its a risk im willing to take. I was just asking to see if there was anything i overlooked. Its not 12 weeks its its twelve weeks total. Im gonna be running it 3wks on 1 week off for 3 rotations.

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    know what im out. This thread is going to go bad
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    Where did you read to run 3 weeks on 1 off for 3 rotations? Where did you read 1400mg of Test and Tren was a good idea? Where did you get your Masters Degree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beast87 View Post
    im 24 and its not that fishy....thats the minimum i wanna gain. Ive hit a wall with my gains for about a year now and i wanna be about the 215-225llb range. And i have done my research. believe me i have done it, Ive got a masters in biochem and human phys. I know exactly the possible effects. and its a risk im willing to take. I was just asking to see if there was anything i overlooked. Its not 12 weeks its its twelve weeks total. Im gonna be running it 3wks on 1 week off for 3 rotations.
    Not that I necessarily believe you, but there is no degree in the world that teaches you how to use AAS properly. Even MDs don't know shit when it comes to steroids , unless they go out of their way to learn (besides how to prescribe 1ml of test C every other week).

    Funny side note: A friend of mine nearly has a PhD in biochem and has run several cycles. I hooked him up with ethanol and PEG 300-based Nolvadex a few year back, and almost shit my pants when he texted me asking if he was supposed to inject it (mind you, this stuff was purple liquid in a plastic bottle with a screw cap).
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    6% Bf. . . Hmmm, do you compete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Not that I necessarily believe you, but there is no degree in the world that teaches you how to use AAS properly. Even MDs don't know shit when it comes to steroids, unless they go out of their way to learn (besides how to prescribe 1ml of test C every other week).
    Exactly. There are no degrees or qualifications you can receive for outstanding knowledge in the field of AAS use lol. You just have to research whats out there and form your own knowledge, understandings and decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharmabrah View Post
    Exactly. There are no degrees or qualifications you can receive for outstanding knowledge in the field of AAS use lol. You just have to research whats out there and form your own knowledge, understandings and decisions.
    Uhhh....I believe there are actually qualified experts in AAS use. Maybe no specific Degree for Juice lol but there are many docs in sports medicine that know what they are talking about and are qualified. I agree, most Docs probably don't know shit about body building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flacco View Post
    Uhhh....I believe there are actually qualified experts in AAS use. Maybe no specific Degree for Juice lol but there are many docs in sports medicine that know what they are talking about and are qualified. I agree, most Docs probably don't know shit about body building.
    Most don't. And the ones who do, did not learn that stuff in school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Most don't. And the ones who do, did not learn that stuff in school.
    I misinterpreted what he said. I thought he meant that everyone just "wings it" and learns from trial and error.

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