A new way to cycle steroids.. An all in one to an atheistic build. Thoughts?

[ripped_k1d]

week 1-10 test E 500mg/week
week 1-5 H-drol 2caps a day
week 7-9 Furza/Orastan A (non methyl) 350 ED
week 10-12 Anavar 40mg/ED
Extremestane 12.5mg EOD
Forma Stanozol will be used if gyno still comes up while taking Aromasin
week 3-14 HCG 500iu E3D

Liver Support will be
1. CEL cycle Support 2x a day
2.Animal Pak vitamin has milk thistle in it
3. Will buy either ai cycle support or purus organ shield as well

Pct starts at week 14
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Formastanozol
Do just Serms for week 14-16 to let them do their job with estro when my natty test levels are at their lowest, then start test boosters

DAA 5weeks
forged Post cycle
Lean Xtreme
birdge
unleashed
Albuterol
HCGenerate, was told not to use on cycle or use test boosters immediately during pct

Game plan=
Bulk for the first 5 weeks and gain 15-20 pounds and have lifts go up. Then take a week or two off to maintain gains, then jump onto Kdrol to lean out and drop some of the water weight from test. Non methyl, gives my liver a 5 week recovery. Then jump from the K to anavar, where I will have more strength gains and hopefully lose more water/fat, will be running and doing cardio as well. Then will be cut as ****. Bulk and cut all in one cycle with test e as a solid base to work off of. This is hands down the best way to get lean gains that can be kept after a cycle is over. Bulk and cut all in one.. Diet first 5 weeks will be eat everything, and the next 7 weeks will be eat everything too basically.

Should add stats silly me!
age-21
5'8
180
bf-12%
lifting 4years past 2.5 have been 5days a week consecutively. First time pinning, needs tons of pinning advice... Scared as faurkkkkk!!!

[Noles12]

About ripped_k1d
Age:
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Dont lie about your age just to get approval

[ripped_k1d]

About ripped_k1d
Age:
21

Dont lie about your age just to get approval

Thanks bro so do you aprove or not?

[Bonaparte]

That's...nothing special.
It's just a pretty standard AAS cycle with some crappy PHs thrown in there instead of an injectable DHT derivative like masteron.

[Papa-pwn]

So must one be an atheist to achieve this "atheistic build"?

[Bonaparte]

So must one be an atheist to achieve this "atheistic build"?

Hahaha. I didn't even catch that one. Lets hope he means "aesthetic".

I just happen to have both

[ripped_k1d]

Hahaha. I didn't even catch that one. Lets hope he means "aesthetic".

I just happen to have both

Spelling fail! and thanks for the feed back guys. Reason I threw the ph's in is that I already had them on hand when I decided to finally start using needles. So I wasn't going to let them go to waste, I didn't buy them for specifically using in this cycle.

[gonzo6183]

week 1-10 test E 500mg/week
week 1-5 H-drol 2caps a day
week 7-9 Furza/Orastan A (non methyl) 350 ED
week 10-12 Anavar 40mg/ED
Extremestane 12.5mg EOD
Forma Stanozol will be used if gyno still comes up while taking Aromasin
week 3-14 HCG 500iu E3D

Liver Support will be
1. CEL cycle Support 2x a day
2.Animal Pak vitamin has milk thistle in it
3. Will buy either ai cycle support or purus organ shield as well

Pct starts at week 14
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Formastanozol
Do just Serms for week 14-16 to let them do their job with estro when my natty test levels are at their lowest, then start test boosters

DAA 5weeks
forged Post cycle
Lean Xtreme
birdge
unleashed
Albuterol
HCGenerate, was told not to use on cycle or use test boosters immediately during pct

Game plan=
Bulk for the first 5 weeks and gain 15-20 pounds and have lifts go up. Then take a week or two off to maintain gains, then jump onto Kdrol to lean out and drop some of the water weight from test. Non methyl, gives my liver a 5 week recovery. Then jump from the K to anavar, where I will have more strength gains and hopefully lose more water/fat, will be running and doing cardio as well. Then will be cut as ****. Bulk and cut all in one cycle with test e as a solid base to work off of. This is hands down the best way to get lean gains that can be kept after a cycle is over. Bulk and cut all in one.. Diet first 5 weeks will be eat everything, and the next 7 weeks will be eat everything too basically.

Should add stats silly me!
age-21
5'8
180
bf-12%
lifting 4years past 2.5 have been 5days a week consecutively. First time pinning, needs tons of pinning advice... Scared as faurkkkkk!!!

Well if you say so then this is my next cycle lmao

[ripped_k1d]

Ha well thanks! Sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet... The thinking is that instead of doing a bulking cycle and then getting off test and losing your water weight and generally feeling "deflated" those things won't happen when you slowly cut back calories and cut while still on cycle. Hdrol was chosen for its slow, dry gains, Katandrol for its diuretic effects and anavar as a way to push the strength gains even farther at the end of the cycle, and to harden up everything that was gained in the weeks prior. If you don't agree im open for a friendly debate..

[gonzo6183]

I dont agree, your plan is completely wrong and WILL NOT provide "the best way to get lean gains that can be kept after the cycle is over" I would be open to a friendly debate if you had something to debate but you dont, its plain and simple 100% wrong

[ripped_k1d]

I dont agree, your plan is completely wrong and WILL NOT provide "the best way to get lean gains that can be kept after the cycle is over" I would be open to a friendly debate if you had something to debate but you dont, its plain and simple 100% wrong

Are you saying gains from test e, hdrol and anavar aren't easy to keep after a cycle? Are you trying to argue that the gains wont stay around? Really?

[gixxerboy1]

Are you saying gains from test e, hdrol and anavar aren't easy to keep after a cycle? Are you trying to argue that the gains wont stay around? Really?

it depends on alot of outside things if you keep results from a cycle.

I dont like your idea or cycle. And your goal is to put on 15-20lbs in the first 5 weeks?

[< <Samson> >]

And your goal is to put on 15-20lbs in the first 5 weeks?

If this was possible everyone would be huge, then some.

15-20 pounds of what? That much LBM in that time is not possible, period.

[gixxerboy1]

If this was possible everyone would be huge, then some.

15-20 pounds of what? That much LBM in that time is not possible, period.

i agree little will be muscle. And adding just that much weight in general isnt healthy

[ripped_k1d]

Obviously the 15-20 pounds wouldn't be all lean if I was doing it in 5 weeks..BY the END of the cycle I would have dropped any of the fat mass I picked up during the first 5week phase. I've bulked before.. Going 1500-2k over my maintenance cals I've gained 3-4 pounds a week consistently before and that was using compounds that don't have nearly the same water retention effects as test e.

I understand you guys are skeptical, but the 15-20 number was thrown out there as a goal. The point is that the 1st 5 weeks would be a phase where I take in way more cals over by bmr and the 2nd half of the cycle I would taper down.

[gixxerboy1]

Obviously the 15-20 pounds wouldn't be all lean if I was doing it in 5 weeks..BY the END of the cycle I would have dropped any of the fat mass I picked up during the first 5week phase. I've bulked before.. Going 1500-2k over my maintenance cals I've gained 3-4 pounds a week consistently before and that was using compounds that don't have nearly the same water retention effects as test e.

I understand you guys are skeptical, but the 15-20 number was thrown out there as a goal. The point is that the 1st 5 weeks would be a phase where I take in way more cals over by bmr and the 2nd half of the cycle I would taper down.

whats the point of putting on a ton of fat and water in 5 weeks to try and loose it the next five weeks?

[Flacco]

week 1-10 test E 500mg/week
week 1-5 H-drol 2caps a day
week 7-9 Furza/Orastan A (non methyl) 350 ED
week 10-12 Anavar 40mg/ED
Extremestane 12.5mg EOD
Forma Stanozol will be used if gyno still comes up while taking Aromasin
week 3-14 HCG 500iu E3D

Liver Support will be
1. CEL cycle Support 2x a day
2.Animal Pak vitamin has milk thistle in it
3. Will buy either ai cycle support or purus organ shield as well

Pct starts at week 14
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Formastanozol
Do just Serms for week 14-16 to let them do their job with estro when my natty test levels are at their lowest, then start test boosters

DAA 5weeks
forged Post cycle
Lean Xtreme
birdge
unleashed
Albuterol
HCGenerate, was told not to use on cycle or use test boosters immediately during pct

Game plan=
Bulk for the first 5 weeks and gain 15-20 pounds and have lifts go up. Then take a week or two off to maintain gains, then jump onto Kdrol to lean out and drop some of the water weight from test. Non methyl, gives my liver a 5 week recovery. Then jump from the K to anavar, where I will have more strength gains and hopefully lose more water/fat, will be running and doing cardio as well. Then will be cut as ****. Bulk and cut all in one cycle with test e as a solid base to work off of. This is hands down the best way to get lean gains that can be kept after a cycle is over. Bulk and cut all in one.. Diet first 5 weeks will be eat everything, and the next 7 weeks will be eat everything too basically.

Should add stats silly me!
age-21
5'8
180
bf-12%
lifting 4years past 2.5 have been 5days a week consecutively. First time pinning, needs tons of pinning advice... Scared as faurkkkkk!!!

Yeah, you could do that. Or... you could run Test for 10-12 weeks and diet right lol

[ISU152]

Along with some other little changes. Anavar is pointless to run for 2 weeks.

[Bonaparte]

Plenty of us have done something similar to what you're suggesting, but it usually takes more like 20 weeks (not that I'm advising it for you).
And it usually involves a Dbol kickstart and a run of Winstrol or Var at the end to lean out.
Honestly, I've tried both and prefer to just run each cycle with a clean diet and keep it shorter rather than try a drastic bulk and cut like you're trying to do.

[Bonaparte]

Along with some other little changes. Anavar is pointless to run for 2 weeks.

Weeks 10-12 makes 3 weeks.

10, 11, 12

[ripped_k1d]

Ahh still thinking. I feel like i'm too young..

I've already done a Hdrol cycle and diselbolan which is Superdrol with max lmg so am I already screwed? Like my doctor told me my growth plates were already closed, so the only thing id worry about is my hpta, and endocrine system, HRT and boner pills (spam filter won't let me say the v word) can take care of those 2 problems.. Idk somebody give me guidance, even if its not what I want to hear..