dont understand long eters

[fanof]

(1) why is it that people say they only make gains at about the 4 week, but i read that test level peak 24-48 hours post injection, so surely you should start making gains almost straight away?

(2) also why would someone use long esters when theyd have to wait for it to 'kick in' and have to wait for it to clear before starting pct? surely its sooo much better to bite bullet and do 1 or 2 extra injections a week with test prop?

[HawaiianPride.]

No. Just because your hormone values are peaked, does not mean that you will instantly have a profound rise in size, strength, and hardness. Increase rate of Testosterone levels will obviously be slower than increasing muscle tissue through the anabolic effect. That's just the way our body responds and evolution has it, even under anabolic enhancement, lol. It's impossible to grow as fast as blowing air into a balloon, or more realistically, as fast as our hair follicles or nail growth.

We like to condone the use of longer esters due to injection frequency (beginners have no experience with needles, so the less you do, the better as you gradually increase your familiarity and expertise with such an apparatus), weaker potency (the stronger the hormone, the higher the risk you run ill related side effects, and no first timer will know how they will respond to the hormone because well obviously they've never done it before), and many other solid reasons. We condone what we do because simply put it's the way it should be done.

[Misery13]

No. Just because your hormone values are peaked, does not mean that you will instantly have a profound rise in size, strength, and hardness. Increase rate of Testosterone levels will obviously be slower than increasing muscle tissue through the anabolic effect. That's just the way our body responds and evolution has it, even under anabolic enhancement, lol. It's impossible to grow as fast as blowing air into a balloon, or more realistically, as fast as our hair follicles or nail growth.

We like to condone the use of longer esters due to injection frequency (beginners have no experience with needles, so the less you do, the better as you gradually increase your familiarity and expertise with such an apparatus), weaker potency (the stronger the hormone, the higher the risk you run ill related side effects, and no first timer will know how they will respond to the hormone because well obviously they've never done it before), and many other solid reasons. We condone what we do because simply put it's the way it should be done.

Well said HP

Maybe you should read more stickies and steroid profiles fanof it wouldn't be a bad idea anyways. I still read and reread them a lot to stay sharp.

[gixxerboy1]

another reason to use long ester is because they are higher dosed per ml. So if someone is using multiple compounds. Or a high dose of test it reduces the amount of oil you have to inject. If someone is using 1000mg of test a week. That would be 10cc's of prop a week. Or could be 2.5 cc's of a t400

[austinite]

another reason to use long ester is because they are higher dosed per ml. So if someone is using multiple compounds. Or a high dose of test it reduces the amount of oil you have to inject. If someone is using 1000mg of test a week. That would be 10cc's of prop a week. Or could be 2.5 cc's of a t400

This is why i use long esters.

[PaynESTER]

i use both.

[Misery13]

Good point gixxer. I guess that I've been cycling so long that I don't mind being a pin cushion. Especially since MM13 gives me my shots now.

[fanof]

if you were using long estered gear, would you increase training intensity right away (considering you already have raised hormone levels) or would you wait for the hormone to build up in your system i.e. about the 4th week ?

[austinite]

if you were using long estered gear, would you increase training intensity right away (considering you already have raised hormone levels) or would you wait for the hormone to build up in your system i.e. about the 4th week ?

I personally don't change anything with my workout. On or off gear.